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Post by doncoyote » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:53 am

hi hope i am posting in the right thread this time ?? ok hear it is i have 30liter birdwatcher mash on the ferment for the last seven days and it now reads 1.20 on the hydrometer and there is no more sign of life from it is it ready at this reading :?:

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by rad14701 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:04 pm

If, in fact the SG is 1.20 then you have WAY too high of a starting specific gravity... How much sugar did you use in that 30 liter wash...??? What is the wash temperature...???

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:11 pm

30 liter of water
200 grams of tomato puree
1 lemon
100 grams bakers yeast
7 kilo of sugar
and decided to add 300 grams of oats just to see if it had a different taste :crazy:
temp 34 c

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by rad14701 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:37 pm

Ok, that helped... You have an initial SG near 1.090 and it is now down to 1.020... At the calibrated temperature of the hydrometer, I presume... That SG sounds a bit high for a Birdwatchers wash but it may not be worth tinkering with it to see if it'll ferment dryer... You have a yield of ~9% ABV out of a potential ~13.7% ABV right now... Might be stalled due to pH or the SG might be up a tad due to the oats... Or it could be an infection... Adding some baking soda, perhaps 1 tablespoon, might help but wouldn't hurt... Hard to say...

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:10 pm

the ph was 8 it is a very hard water hear will try and add the baking soda if it dose not work any other thing i can do or will i just run it ???

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by rad14701 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:15 pm

If the pH is actually high rather than low then you'd want to add something acidic like lemon juice or citric acid... Baking soda will raise the pH if it's low...

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 am

put some bicab bacon soda in last night still no change """ can i just run it ? and would i get anything out of it or do you have any other tips i have look't all over the form and cant find any other answers :?:

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by rad14701 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:07 am

You've fermented at least 3/4 of the sugar, and perhaps more, into alcohol so you'll definitely get alcohol by distilling the wash... The only thing to watch for is potential foaming due to unfermented sugar as well as starches from the oats... Let the wash clear and then rack it carefully...

For your next Birdwatcher wash skip the oats... I run a modified Birdwatchers and have good luck with it fermenting to dry in less time than the original recipe takes...

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:49 am

thanks Rad :thumbup: will take every think in :wave:

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by Prairiepiss » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:08 am

If your wanting to use oats? You would be better off following the UJSSM recipe. Replacing the corn with oats.
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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:15 am

help !!! help !!! any suggestions i had but another birdwatcher on the day after the last one but after the problem with the first one i left it a bit longer to ferment like 9 days just check't it it is 1.3 tshe fist one was 1.2 i added baking soda to it 3 days ago recommended any suggestions :sick: :sick:

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Post by Prairiepiss » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:59 am

doncoyote wrote:help !!! help !!! any suggestions i had but another birdwatcher on the day after the last one but after the problem with the first one i left it a bit longer to ferment like 9 days just check't it it is 1.3 tshe fist one was 1.2 i added baking soda to it 3 days ago recommended any suggestions :sick: :sick:
Do you mean 1.030 and 1.020 SG? Does this one have oats in it to? What was the starting SG?
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Post by Mud Mechanik » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:49 pm

doncoyote wrote:help !!! help !!! any suggestions i had but another birdwatcher on the day after the last one but after the problem with the first one i left it a bit longer to ferment like 9 days just check't it it is 1.3 tshe fist one was 1.2 i added baking soda to it 3 days ago recommended any suggestions :sick: :sick:
Throw away your box of baking soda and squeeze a lemon or 2 in the wash. I'm also agreeing with PP, we gonna need some accurate sg readings to help you.
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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:54 pm

sorry lads did not do a sg on this one as i thought it would be the same as the other ! bad bad mistake ! but yes that was 1.030
do i just run it and get what ever i can or is there a alternative :?:

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by jimmycrackedcorn » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:29 pm

I would sure like to try this birdwatcher recipe. I see everyone talking about it but I can't find the actual recipe. When I do a search all I get are thousands of references to it but not the actual recipe. Could someone PM it to me or point me in the right direction?

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by Marshwalker » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:49 pm

jimmycrackedcorn wrote:I would sure like to try this birdwatcher recipe. I see everyone talking about it but I can't find the actual recipe. When I do a search all I get are thousands of references to it but not the actual recipe. Could someone PM it to me or point me in the right direction?
It's in the "Tried and True" section... i don't know how to add the link on here so just go back to the board index, and scroll down to that section and you'll see it in there.
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Re: birdwatcher

Post by doncoyote » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:53 am

hi jimmycrakedcorn it's in the tried and true recipes :wave:

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by jimmycrackedcorn » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:32 pm

Found it. Thanks Marsh :D

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Re: birdwatcher

Post by Marshwalker » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:30 am

:thumbup:
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