mrblues4625 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:59 pm
I would love to do this but, I am having a hard time finding all the ingredients. I'm finding malted wheat and rye for around $25.00 per 10 lbs. so im looking at over $50.00 for just a part of the grains needed. Any one have a good sourcing for the ingredients needed?
Can you buy whole grains cheaper and malt yourself to save $? This is not only fun but once you get in the flow of it, can work out so that you can malt enough grains between ferments. Once you learn how to do this it isn't hard.
Can you mill yourself or have a heavy duty blender that will do the job for now?
While not exactly this recipe per say you can check you local super market for whole grain flour made from wheat and rye and use this as part of the unmalted portions to get your costs lower and get a "taste" of this true recipe. You'll have more work during the sparging but it costs you zero.
Have you checked or googled to see if there is any local or semi local malt houses in your area? Or whole grain operations?
For example anyone in my area can get a full load of wheat (pickup truck bed) for $50 but then need to clean it within 5 miles from my house.
Without giving to much info out, lets just say anyone in my area can get whole grains (2 row, wheat, rye) at about 50 cent per pound unmalted and about $1.05 per lb malted (9/2019). If the person can't mill themselves then add 3 to 5 cents per pound depending on grain for milling. The same exact grains are sold at local brew stores for $2+ per pound and usually at $2.50 or so.
So my point is to shop around and see if there are any local malt shops/farms or wholesale grain dealers near you. Or think about giving the recipe a "rough" try using flour for the unmalted parts.
All grains are more work then sugar washes but can be cheaper overall as "sugar washes" aren't exactly cheap when you know how to convert starches to sugars properly and offer a far more complex taste. This is especially true for "corn mashes" which isn't called for in this recipe.
Personally I don't find it worthwhile to malt corn or oats but barley and wheat are far better malted IMHO. Rye can be used malted or not depending on beer profile but that's just me.
So my point is to check and see if you have "alternate" sources of grains you can use and possibly malt yourself to lower costs.
At the end of the day you DO need to CALCULATE RETURN on oak vs cost but even with high costs I think you'll find the cost to be less then half of a good drop purchased from the local store. Knowing your drop can be much better in a couple of years on ageing hopefully plays into your calculations.
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