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I have read of malted barley and malted corn, but what about the other grains?

Has anyone used malted wheat, malted sorghum, or malted oats, or another malted grain to provide the enzymes and a different flavor?
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You need only use the search tool to find nore information that you can digest. Yes people use other malted grains. Rye, wheat, etc. Your Search Foo is weak young pattowan.
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I malted barley, corn, oats, wheat and once (yes, I'm a mad experimenter) even beans. I have been successful with everything but corn is the one that has given me the most (usually hardest) problems.
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Dreamer wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:53 pm I have read of malted barley and malted corn, but what about the other grains?

Has anyone used malted wheat, malted sorghum, or malted oats, or another malted grain to provide the enzymes and a different flavor?
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Demy wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am I malted barley, corn, oats, wheat and once (yes, I'm a mad experimenter) even beans. I have been successful with everything but corn is the one that has given me the most (usually hardest) problems.
Can you tell me which malted grains carry the most amylase ? Example: 1 lb malted X will convert itself and 10 lb unmalted Y.

And, do all malted grains contain enough amylase to convert themselves? Are there any good grains that should not be malted?

Tell me about the beans. Spill 'em.
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NormandieStill wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:11 am
Dreamer wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:49 am Yes. All the answers can be found SOMEWHERE among the hundreds of thousands of posts, hundreds of thousands of posts, hundreds of thousands of posts. But frankly I don't even want to try to sift through them only to find that those questions also were just old examples of the asshats abusing the questioners through the years. I want my abuse to be fresh and new.

I will ALWAYS ask my own questions. .
After decades of internet forums I find HD to be pretty damn good on the asshat front.

Especially as (to paraphrase what you just wrote) you have no intention of doing any work yourself and just want everything to be handed to you. When I have a question the Google search generally gets me answers on the first page of results. Enough to then search better and failing that to ask better questions. So here's some fresh, new and polite "abuse"; Do your own damn legwork. There's a veritable encyclopedia here and your asking the authors to sit down and read it to you!
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Demy wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am I malted barley, corn, oats, wheat and once (yes, I'm a mad experimenter) even beans. I have been successful with everything but corn is the one that has given me the most (usually hardest) problems.
I’m curious how your bean likker turned out…
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Demy wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am I malted barley, corn, oats, wheat and once (yes, I'm a mad experimenter) even beans. I have been successful with everything but corn is the one that has given me the most (usually hardest) problems.
Hambone wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:20 am I’m curious how your bean likker turned out…
The right term I think is "Broad Bean", I apologize for my English. I maltated this not for a distillate but to eat it, I had baked beans (usually very hard) so I thought why not experience the effect of maltation? The result was as I expected, friable and sweeter.
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Dreamer wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:09 am
Demy wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:20 am I malted barley, corn, oats, wheat and once (yes, I'm a mad experimenter) even beans. I have been successful with everything but corn is the one that has given me the most (usually hardest) problems.
Can you tell me which malted grains carry the most amylase ? Example: 1 lb malted X will convert itself and 10 lb unmalted Y.

And, do all malted grains contain enough amylase to convert themselves? Are there any good grains that should not be malted?

Tell me about the beans. Spill 'em.
For my practical experience, the barley I think is in first place for diastatic power, very similar wheat. The corn (my opinion) has just enough enzymes to convert himself and sometimes (if you had a bad germination or wrong procedure) it is not enough for himself. Let's say a mixture (1-star barley malt - 2 raw cereal parts) should be fine, even if I would be better with 50/50. This is my other experience could have different experiences ... you must also understand that in addition to economic savings there is to consider what you want to get from your ferment ... often some cereals are used for the aromatic profile, and often the version "All malt" from the best results in terms of quality.
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Liquid gluco-amylase enzymes is the “great equalizer”. it will make up for the shortfall of enzymes in just about any cereal grain. In fact, sometimes you won’t even need malted grains at all, although malting does affect the flavors of your beer in a good way.

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still_stirrin wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:15 am Liquid gluco-amylase enzymes is the “great equalizer”. it will make up for the shortfall of enzymes in just about any cereal grain. In fact, sometimes you won’t even need malted grains at all, although malting does affect the flavors of your beer in a good way.

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still_stirrin wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:15 am Liquid gluco-amylase enzymes is the “great equalizer”. it will make up for the shortfall of enzymes in just about any cereal grain. In fact, sometimes you won’t even need malted grains at all, although malting does affect the flavors of your beer in a good way.

Getcha’ some of that!
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+1. I use a bit even if my DP should be high enough. Belt and suspenders…
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