VM Project

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Re: VM Project

Postby irishmike » Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:16 pm

beautiful work NM, and +1 on it being a shame to cover up the art of your work. i have a question about the set up. what is the advantage of having a LM and VM set up in one rig? how do you use it? could you give us an example of what steps are involved in a run? thanks again for sharing.
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Re: VM Project

Postby Tom Hawk » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:07 am

New Moonshiner (or others),

I am new to this craft and am presently having a ball! Your work is absolutely beautiful! You should get an award. I suspect you will certainly get a "reward" once you learn the subtilties of operating your new VM unit.

Now, my question:

For such a system, why would there be insulation around the cross flow condenser? Additionally, should there be any insulation above the column itself? Doesn't the reflux section (the part immediately above the column), the outlet to the VM valve, and to the lieberg condenser need to be exposed to ambient atmosphere?

If I'm off base, I apologize; it's because of ignorance so please educate me.

Thanks to all.

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Re: VM Project

Postby new_moonshiner » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:43 pm

Pms sent ..
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Re: VM Project

Postby kingearwig » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:58 am

What a beautiful rig! I built a 2" VM head. I used a .75" gate valve. I have no slant plates in it and I use a coil as the upper condenser instead of the crossflow.

When I run a bok style LM rig I collect foreshots, heads, hearts, some tails. Then when I am sure that I am well into the tails I open my valve all the way so as to collect the tails as fast as possible because they will be rerun any way and I have plenty of storage space for them.

I rarely use my VM because I cannot do this with that head. My only option for running balls out with that rig is to just live with 2.67:1 reflux ratio. Or to remove the coil and cap the top. which works well. When you are in the tails of your run do you switch to LM so that you can have a no reflux?
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Re: VM Project

Postby Smiffy » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 am

ummmmm wow..
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Re: VM Project

Postby gunpowder44820 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:54 pm

NEAT IDEA AND GREAT PICTURES. WHERE DID YOU FIND THE 2 IN DISC AND WHAT MATERIAL ARE THEY MADE OUT OF?
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Re: VM Project

Postby new_moonshiner » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:08 pm

King, I use the upper assembly to remove fore's and heads ... and the Vm side to collect the hearts ..to me it runs a tad bit faster.. and i think cleaner than if I just used the LM side to do the whole run .. I really dont spend alot of energy on the tails which normally isnt al that much anyways ..my goal is to produce the cleanest and puriest of Neut. .. Im too much of a perfectioniest i guess... one could turn up the power towards the end im sure and collect more of the tail.. but like i say .. generaly for my run .. its not worth the time and energy .. the 1 inch gate seems to give me pretty decent control over the rig .

gunpowder, are you askign about the disc i used ? if so .. they are cut from a flat piece of the 2 inch copper .. I cut a piece about three inches long , split it , and heated till red .. submerged in cold water.... then very easily pressed it flat .. and the did the drilling the holes.
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Re: VM Project

Postby exon » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:32 pm

Beautiful project!
Excellent workmanship!!

Thank you for the excellent presentation.
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Re: VM Project

Postby axle1960 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:42 am

Great workmanship, very inspiring.
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Re: VM Project

Postby Sr WiNdTech » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:29 pm

Can I ask where you got your 2" copper disc's?
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Re: VM Project

Postby new_moonshiner » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:29 pm

new_moonshiner wrote:gunpowder, are you askign about the disc i used ? if so .. they are cut from a flat piece of the 2 inch copper .. I cut a piece about three inches long , split it , and heated till red .. submerged in cold water.... then very easily pressed it flat .. and the did the drilling the holes.
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Re: VM Project

Postby Sr WiNdTech » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:19 pm

hahaha, I knew I should of read the whole thread :) Thanks!
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Re: VM Project

Postby ammo man » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:29 am

Hello new_moonshiner,

I changed computers a couple of months ago, and lost your email address. Send me an emai so I can get your address, and I will bring you up to date on my latest ventures relating to our favorite drink.

To you new comers: Below is a link that will show some pictures of new_moonshiner's rig that I built with his advice and help. I will add that I could not have done it without his help. He was always there when I needed him.

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Re: VM Project

Postby pale horse » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:19 pm

Great work and setup I live in the bush here in Alaska I sure wish I could get someone to make me a unit like this would make it worth his while pm me if you would like my cell and we could talk Kim
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Re: VM Project

Postby Kiwi-lembic » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:23 am

nice job
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Re: VM Project

Postby jacksonslayer » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:06 pm

I like the "water tube boiler" style condenser.
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Re: VM Project

Postby rad14701 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:15 pm

jacksonslayer wrote:I like the "water tube boiler" style condenser.

:?: :econfused: :?:
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Re: VM Project

Postby Oxbo Rene » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:18 pm

rad14701 wrote:
jacksonslayer wrote:I like the "water tube boiler" style condenser.

:?: :econfused: :?:


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Re: VM Project

Postby rad14701 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:55 pm

Oxbo Rene wrote:
rad14701 wrote:
jacksonslayer wrote:I like the "water tube boiler" style condenser.

:?: :econfused: :?:


(Newbie)......

I'm still left wondering what that description meant... :think:
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Re: VM Project

Postby aqua vitae » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:17 pm

:eh: :problem: :think: :idea:
water tube boiler condenser = Harry's crossflow condenser = shotgun condenser = shell and tube condenser? :lolno:

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Re: VM Project

Postby Oxbo Rene » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:28 pm

He must be a "boilermaker" :D :D
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Re: VM Project

Postby BossFrogg » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:40 pm

Now I'm just depressed . Please tell me your a master plumber with 25 years experience . My little stainless and copper still just committed suicide after seeing yours . I really envy your craftsmanship . Very nice job .
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Re: VM Project

Postby new_moonshiner » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:42 pm

youre not too far off my friend . 24 years ..lol i dont do as much now as i did then .. but it just comes as part of the job I guess.. thanks for the kind words..
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Re: VM Project

Postby Samohon » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:06 pm

Nice to see this VM bumped (again), brings back great memories of a perfect build... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Must remember to build a crossflow for my VM when I finish my Flute build... :thumbup:
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Re: VM Project

Postby whiskymonster » Wed May 04, 2011 2:21 pm

by christ that's pretty!

i like it that much, i think i atually love it!

nm, however, you sir are a bounder and a cad!

i only built my rig a few weeks ago, and now im going to have to start again on a brand new build! the mrs is already getting a bit arsey about the bits of copper all over the flat!

seriously though such a nice job!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: VM Project

Postby BACKWOODS1 » Sat May 14, 2011 1:40 pm

nice job i am a master plumber for 40 years and that is some of the nicest soldering i have seen. :thumbup:
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Re: VM Project

Postby new_moonshiner » Sun May 15, 2011 6:17 am

Thank you guys for the kind words and comments ... one thing I do is take a little pride in my work.. and the final product as well.. :D
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Re: VM Project

Postby cupcake +1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:57 pm

Nice work, very clean and professional.. Any chance of getting a pic of the whole system? Why do you have 2 condensors, not sure I understand how the whole thing goes together.
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Re: VM Project

Postby moe fishwater » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Genius NM! Gorgeous still. Say, Wha'd you use to insulate your rig, and is that electrical tape keeping it on? Thanks.
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Re: VM Project

Postby Bubba Q » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:59 am

You can get the foam insulation at most hardware or refrigeration supplies. It's typically 1/2"wall and sized for copper pipe (O.D). Some of the brands I'm aware of are called Nomalock and Armaflex. If you google them you'll see what I mean.
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