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You guys take a look at this and see if there is any reason this wont work. I am thinking of building one and see if will work. The flute I feel sure will handle the vapor.
Just a brain fart I had last night.
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The red adapter is the part I am talking about.
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Maybe if you did a run low with say easy flange keg to keg to keep liquid at same level so one didn't run out before the other and temps would some what be the same. As well as keeping alcohol content of wash through out the run.

Edit= You could blind flange it off when not running twin kegs.
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KS, that might work, guessing a bit tricky to run, but I think that might be straying into the " not quite for hobby" size.

AZF, when only running one keg, why not just clamp the column to the keg you are using?
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JethroBodine wrote:KS, that might work, guessing a bit tricky to run, but I think that might be straying into the " not quite for hobby" size.

AZF, when only running one keg, why not just clamp the column to the keg you are using?
He was asking if it would work. I just suggested that if he did do something like that he should run a pipe low on the keg so liquid could stay at same level and intermingle. Temps would come up closer to the same ABV would stay equal through out the run in both kegs. And when he wanted a single keg with a blind flange to cover the outlet. Was just my thoughts and I believe that is what he was asking for.
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what I am talking about is. making a piece that will connect the 2 kegs with a t in the middle for your column. It really would not matter if one was depleted of alcohol before the other. It would just be like running one keg. The boiler will never run out of liquid before the other is finished. If you only want to run one keg no big deal, just dont use the adapter and put your flute right on the keg as it done now. You would use tri-clamps to attach everything together. Yes it really is to big for hobby still. I guess im just thinking outside the box.. Just a brain fart.. I may get a T and try it just for shits and grins....
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and try it just for shits and grins....
Best reason I can think of :ebiggrin:
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I know you cant run a pot still by temp, but what about adding a thermometer to monitor the temp of the wash of both kegs ? That way you could keep an eye that they are running close to the same. Im probably wrong and way off base, but it sounds reasonable to me! :ebiggrin:
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Kentucky shinner wrote:what I am talking about is. making a piece that will connect the 2 kegs with a t in the middle for your column. It really would not matter if one was depleted of alcohol before the other. It would just be like running one keg. The boiler will never run out of liquid before the other is finished. If you only want to run one keg no big deal, just dont use the adapter and put your flute right on the keg as it done now. You would use tri-clamps to attach everything together. Yes it really is to big for hobby still. I guess im just thinking outside the box.. Just a brain fart.. I may get a T and try it just for shits and grins....
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I think it could be a big deal if one keg was finished before the other because you could smear tails from one keg to the other hearts could you not?
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Azframer wrote:I think it could be a big deal if one keg was finished before the other because you could smear tails from one keg to the other hearts could you not?
In my mind I could see that impacting the measureable quality of the run.

But I recon I'd keep the rig in 100% reflux mode for a good long while and let the fractions sort it out in the column. Then just pull take off with a relatively high RR. Run the rig a few times till ya getter dialed in real good.
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Azframer wrote:
Kentucky shinner wrote:what I am talking about is. making a piece that will connect the 2 kegs with a t in the middle for your column. It really would not matter if one was depleted of alcohol before the other. It would just be like running one keg. The boiler will never run out of liquid before the other is finished. If you only want to run one keg no big deal, just dont use the adapter and put your flute right on the keg as it done now. You would use tri-clamps to attach everything together. Yes it really is to big for hobby still. I guess im just thinking outside the box.. Just a brain fart.. I may get a T and try it just for shits and grins....
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I think it could be a big deal if one keg was finished before the other because you could smear tails from one keg to the other hearts could you not?
You could be right but I dont think so. The flute does a hell of a job separating the vapors. The heads could be a problem, but I think it you let it reflux for a longer time that would be ok also. All of your heads should be right at the top of the column. Do to the temp of the column I dont think it will smear cuts. Only reason I say this is because when you hit tails with a flute it just stops running distillate until you shut the water flow off to the dephlag. Then they are very compressed. I don't think the tails will come until you shut the water off to the dephlag. The flute will keep the tails in the column. My temp never gets about 80c until I stop the water flow to the dephlag. I think this is just one of these experiments I will just have to try and if it doesnot work I will have a really nice club.. :lol: :lol:
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A really nice club! ROFLMAO
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Azframer wrote:A really nice club! ROFLMAO
watcha mean... Im a little slow man... :D What does ROF stand for..
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Rollin on floor laughing my ass off, if I add PIP means peeing in pants.
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Azframer wrote:Rollin on floor laughing my ass off, if I add PIP means peeing in pants.
:lol: :lol: Ok thanks for the clarifacation.... Hell ya.
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Well with the way I was talking about you could place a valve on each of the kegs and with the flange there could connect the 2 together. You would also have a easy way to drain at the end of the run.
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If you put a plate offset in the tee where you flute attaches you could go 100% reflux and the reflux would go to one keg but the low line would equal them out automatic right?
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Oh yes I see exactly... I think your right..
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if you put the same % wash in each keg, and had them perfectly level....... It should work.....Right? :? I have been sampling a bit tonight :oops:
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I might be a rookie at this but my mind has been in overdrive KS.
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MuleKicker wrote:if you put the same % wash in each keg, and had them perfectly level....... It should work.....Right? :? I have been sampling a bit tonight :oops:
It gets clearer the more you sample :wink:
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MuleKicker wrote:if you put the same % wash in each keg, and had them perfectly level....... It should work.....Right? :? I have been sampling a bit tonight :oops:
It gets clearer the more you sample :wink:
Thats what im talkin bout 8) You have much wisdom grasshopper. :eugeek:
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We should probably scratch this idea.. It is a little much for a hobby stiller anyway.. I just get these ideas running round my head and sometimes I get carried away. There is really no need to run this much wash anyway.. I really just thought if it worked it would look pretty cool.. :lol: :lol: :lol: yep I been sampling to MK... :esurprised:
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Kentucky shinner wrote:yep I been sampling to MK...
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Kentucky shinner wrote:We should probably scratch this idea.. It is a little much for a hobby stiller anyway..
Yea right, you lie to your friends and I'll lie to mine, but lets not lie to each other.! :mrgreen:
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Ya but this is a hobby site and and hobby forum.. I just dont think this is the place. Hell there is really no need for it as a hobby. I really just crapped this idea out of my head. :idea:
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Kentucky shinner wrote:I really just crapped this idea out of my head. :idea:
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oooohhhh. That is gonna itch when it dries.. :lol:

another thought, if theroetically one were to do this, you should have exactly the same heat input to both sides.
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Ya its allready itching... I bet electric would be the only way to manage the heat :idea:
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hmmmm...... might know a guy :?
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I guess if you wanted to go large you could just get one of these instead of going 2 kegs.:
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