Scrubbies in a packed column
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Scrubbies in a packed column
Hi all,
So I sold the plated column and now am putting together a packed column. This is modular, 3", between 39" and 69" (probably don't have the ceiling height to add all the sections )with a 3" depleg on top and I am stuffing all the copper scrubbies I have in there. For this setup I am obviously looking at making neutral.
Now the question is where does it make the most sense to put the packing? Towards the bottom or the top or more equally distributed along the length of the column?
Thanks!
So I sold the plated column and now am putting together a packed column. This is modular, 3", between 39" and 69" (probably don't have the ceiling height to add all the sections )with a 3" depleg on top and I am stuffing all the copper scrubbies I have in there. For this setup I am obviously looking at making neutral.
Now the question is where does it make the most sense to put the packing? Towards the bottom or the top or more equally distributed along the length of the column?
Thanks!
Some column parts on order, some copper stuff under construction, a keg and a gas burner. Early days, but watch this space!
Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Throughout the entire column, pack the scrubbies evenly over the length. If you need more go and get some if you can
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
For a neutral throughout the column, take advantage of all the space ... You also make a quite dense packaging.
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Realistically I'll probably start off with the 39" section first and I probably have enough scrubbies to pack half tightly, or the whole section a little looser. I'll keep on adding some, but it does seem like something you'll never have too much of.
I also have 2 rolls of copper mesh, do you suggest just using the roll in the column as is, or do you unroll it and feed it back into the column in a fairly random fashion?
It will be interesting keeping records and see how much difference it makes when I add the other sections.
I also have 2 rolls of copper mesh, do you suggest just using the roll in the column as is, or do you unroll it and feed it back into the column in a fairly random fashion?
It will be interesting keeping records and see how much difference it makes when I add the other sections.
Some column parts on order, some copper stuff under construction, a keg and a gas burner. Early days, but watch this space!
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Keep it rolled.....thats how its always been used.
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those 'Mr Clean Silver Pot And Pan Scrubs - 10 pack' are cheap and apparently in the big green shed NZ.
keep the mesh rolled tight, i think it's almost impossible to roll it too tight by hand.
i use 2.25m of mesh for 1 x roll in my 2" column, so considering your 3" is more than twice the area.....
using 'pi r squared' and taking into account i'm still half asleep, my calculator says you might need about 5m per roll in a 3"?
keep the mesh rolled tight, i think it's almost impossible to roll it too tight by hand.
i use 2.25m of mesh for 1 x roll in my 2" column, so considering your 3" is more than twice the area.....
using 'pi r squared' and taking into account i'm still half asleep, my calculator says you might need about 5m per roll in a 3"?
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Ah yes, those scrubbies really are cheap. And stainless of course, everything I have in there at the moment is copper, but maybe I am overthinking that. It is probably better to run stainless rather than nothing...
Some column parts on order, some copper stuff under construction, a keg and a gas burner. Early days, but watch this space!
Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
If it's a copper column, marbles might be worth looking at.
If it's SS, use copper.
I don't know what brand it was, but I've had something that looked very similar to Mr Clean that claimed to be stainless, but went rusty when I hadn't removed it from the end of a Liebig between runs. Check it with a magnet.
If it's SS, use copper.
I don't know what brand it was, but I've had something that looked very similar to Mr Clean that claimed to be stainless, but went rusty when I hadn't removed it from the end of a Liebig between runs. Check it with a magnet.
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Yep, stainless column. I now have many copper scrubbies in there, I didn't keep count. They are tightly packed in about 70cm of the 1m section. I'll probably just fill it up with copper. I also have some more 30cm sections and was thinking to build a tall column, but then I assembled everything today and boy! that makes a tall column
For now I'll stick with the 1m, fill it up with copper scrubbies, do a few runs before I mess around making it taller.
For now I'll stick with the 1m, fill it up with copper scrubbies, do a few runs before I mess around making it taller.
Some column parts on order, some copper stuff under construction, a keg and a gas burner. Early days, but watch this space!
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70cm isn't a lot. Have you got any scoria or marbles you could put below the copper?
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Scoria is cheaper than the scrubbers in the same shop and would probably do a better job.
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
70cm of copper is more than enough for the purpose of Sulphite removal . From my experience , Stainless scrubbers are far more effective than scoria …. and a while lot lighter .
I agree with Saltbush , keep the copper mesh rolled , but when it comes to SS scrubbers , tease them out then stuff them back .
I agree with Saltbush , keep the copper mesh rolled , but when it comes to SS scrubbers , tease them out then stuff them back .
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Make your own packing it is cheaper and more dense. I have since added to the amount listed on the following thread.
Making your own packing
Making your own packing
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Shadylane did some heavy lifting on this topic, and his tests match yummy's experience (though his lava pieces look a little chunky).
I started with lava and haven't had cause to not use it. Plus it's badass to scrub yer booze with lava!
Still, it's looking like I'll need to test some scrubbies out to see for myself.
Thanks for nothing, everyone! ; )
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for the record, my 'Mr Clean' SS scrubbies are as shiny as the day i bought them 18 months ago, with no signs of rust.
other brands may differ.
other brands may differ.
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Ironically I have a bag of scoria that was destined for this column, but I decided to start off with a scrubbie filled column as a point of reference. (The columen is now filled to the brim with copper scrubbies.)
I would love to try this with the scoria at some point, mostly because we live in a volcanically active country and indeed, Vodka distilled through a bed of lava has a certain ring to it. But also cause I am just curious...
Thanks all!
I would love to try this with the scoria at some point, mostly because we live in a volcanically active country and indeed, Vodka distilled through a bed of lava has a certain ring to it. But also cause I am just curious...
Thanks all!
Some column parts on order, some copper stuff under construction, a keg and a gas burner. Early days, but watch this space!
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
My experience is the same. The only maintenance I do is to hose the column top to bottom with the scrubbies still in place after every run.
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Re: Scrubbies in a packed column
Several members gave good suggestions sorry you don’t appreciate their efforts. For me I will probably not be making anymore suggestions on your request for help in the future..Oatmeal wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:30 amShadylane did some heavy lifting on this topic, and his tests match yummy's experience (though his lava pieces look a little chunky).
I started with lava and haven't had cause to not use it. Plus it's badass to scrub yer booze with lava!
Still, it's looking like I'll need to test some scrubbies out to see for myself.
Thanks for nothing, everyone! ; )
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I don't think my wink at the end of the sentence carried the meaning I was trying to convey across the ethernets. If you will be kind enough to re-read my post as a tongue in cheek thanks for nothing, conveying a lighthearted exasperation at adding more (enjoyable) distilling chores to my list, to expand my abilities and knowledge, I would be most appreciative. I should have used the actual emoji...
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I missed it thanks for clearifying.Oatmeal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:11 pm
I don't think my wink at the end of the sentence carried the meaning I was trying to convey across the ethernets. If you will be kind enough to re-read my post as a tongue in cheek thanks for nothing, conveying a lighthearted exasperation at adding more (enjoyable) distilling chores to my list, to expand my abilities and knowledge, I would be most appreciative. I should have used the actual emoji...