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New fermenter question.

Post by Tabucowboy » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:07 am

I got a new fermenter. I am a little worried. I know it is food safe. But what was stored in it prior to me getting it was Ghost Pepper Mash. Basically just ground up ghost pepper hot sauce it was used to ship the pepper sauce to the bottling plant. I washed the barrel 5 times and rolled 170% grain on the inside first. It still smells like peppers just worried if the spiciness will come through the distilling process. If it's only slight that would be fine I like spicy drinks. I did let water sit in it for a week and it did not taste spicy.
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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by Demy » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:21 am

Once cleaned like that I don't think there can be any problems and it won't pass the spiciness to your spirits. If you still notice smells you could use a dish detergent but you have to rinse very well, I use a detergent made from ash which is great for removing odors, if you are interested this is the post on the recipe
https://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=80562

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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by dieselduo » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:48 am

PBW in hot water should do the trick

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Post by zed255 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:17 pm

I have a barrel that a family member used to store an inflatable pool in over the winter. Smelled horribly of vinyl and chlorine when I got it and was thinking it unusable. I washed it out, let water stand in it, washed and dried. After airing for a while it still smelled a little funky but I went ahead with a rum in it and had no issues. I say if you are worried, test drive it with a cheap sugar wash and see how it goes, but I doubt you will have any issues.
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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by Corsaire » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:08 am

The spiciness doesn't come over into distilled spirits. I added peppers to a gin run, no spice.
What was left in the boiler could've been used as pepperspray though.

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Post by CopperFiend » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:29 pm

Corsaire wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:08 am
The spiciness doesn't come over into distilled spirits. I added peppers to a gin run, no spice.
What was left in the boiler could've been used as pepperspray though.
I've had the same experience. I have definitely tasted gins with very peppery spicy character. They werent advertised as flavoured, in fact they were advertised as craft. How do you think they managed to get the pepperyness to carry over?

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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by Corsaire » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:53 pm

Added capsaicin maybe? It's colorless according to wikipedia.
Or were the gins colored?

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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by CopperFiend » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:39 pm

No, they were colourless, hence my confusion! I've tried two gin batches, one of them even with ghost chillies and no taste in the final product.

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Post by TXChiliMayo » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:05 am

I have that same barrel, ghost pepper purée, I’ve used it several times just rinsing out and light wipe with Dawn, then rinsed and set out in the sun for a few hours to dry. It was washed when I got it and hasn’t imparted any flavor that I can tell.

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Post by LWTCS » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:13 am

Kind of related,,,,I used to get 1 gallon dill pickle jars from the local deli.
I used em for finished product storage.
It took quite a bit of work to eradicate the dill pickle smell even with glass.
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Post by Deplorable » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:22 am

I never could find one of these barrels for less than I could buy a Brute. Deals on them within reasonable driving distance are just nonexistent. I'd love a 30 gallon olive/pepper barrel.
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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by kpex72 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:30 am

dieselduo wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:48 am
PBW in hot water should do the trick
I second this. Great advice!

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Post by jonnys_spirit » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:48 am

Fill it with corn mash and infected backset a couple times and it'll smell real good!

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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by Durhommer » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:47 am

As Jonny suggests just ferment in it it'll be ok
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Re: New fermenter question.

Post by Fredistiller » Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:24 am

I use washing soda (+ vinegar) in hot water to remove smells. Works wonderful.

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