I finally got me a 50 gal plastic drum and as soon as it was cleaned out I dropped 100 lbs of cracked corn in it with hot water. At 90 degrees I dropped half a pack of chinese gold yeast and let it run. I wanted some all grain on the first half of my high yield plan. After about 6 or 7 days I pulled 30 clear gals out and ran two batches real slow (I have a 15 gal pot with a 3 gal thumper).
As soon as I finished the 30 gal runs I put 15 gal of backset back in the barrel with 50 lbs of sugar, a pound of bread yeast and 15 gal of new water. Two weeks later I pull 30 clear gals to run as sour mash, then bought me a mop wringer and pulled the final 15 gals out with that.
I am really pleased with getting 75 gal of mash with a little effort of heating on the front side and wringing on the back. **Highly echo the recommendations here on getting a wringer**
My yield on the all grain was a little low, next time higher temp gelatanization with high temp enzyme. My yield on the all grain was 3.5 gal of 100 proof, and on my sour mash was around 8 gal of 100 proof. **Note - I think my heads were lower on all runs because I stirred the pot to around 168 degrees before I put the cap on - and I did not use DADY on the sour mash.
All in all this was a lot of fun and I got plenty of barter liquid. I will make some changes for the next run - but that's what makes this so fun.
Big River
High Mash Yield lower effort
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Re: High Mash Yield lower effort
The process you outline will not give much in return.. surprised it even fermented out with just using cracked corn..
Yeah I would say " a little low" is more like very little for the batch done.. If you want a higher yield, you'll need to mill the corn to cornmeal, and cook the corn at 180*f for 2 hrs with enzymes, otherwise you'll get very little for your efforts..
Mars
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Re: High Mash Yield lower effort
I get the same volume and much same process with the yellow angel yeast.
Stillerboy how much do you get traditional mashing and are you using steamer/thumper?
Stillerboy how much do you get traditional mashing and are you using steamer/thumper?
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Re: High Mash Yield lower effort
I have no experience with the yellow angel yeast nor have I researched it, nor have I experience doing 50 gal mash..
But I do have experience with 10 - 15 gal AG using liquid enzymes, and milling the grains to a 40/60 flour/meal size, mashing the grains for a few hours.. the yield has always been consistence with the 2 lb/gal and 7 - 8% abv, and strip the regular way, then use a reflux column run in a hybrid mode for the finished product ..
I do know that using cracked corn (without milling it)and trying to mash as such will give very little sugar (and you'll getting is corn flavor), even when mash for a couple hrs.. tried a few experiment doing UJSM style.. still requires normal amount of sugar to bring the SG up..
Mars
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