Dropped some coal in the mash

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Dropped some coal in the mash

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I am about to distill spirits by first fermenting a mash of sugar and water and then using a thermostat heater 30-45°C (86-113°F) to distill spirits.

I made a noob mistake and happened to drop some of the coal from the water lock into the mash in the bucket (this happened when I wanted to move the whole thing after mixing sugar, water and yeast).

Is there a problem in any way with some active coal in the mash while fermenting? It is not very much at all. Very little actually.
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Potiben wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 pm… Is there a problem in any way with some active coal in the mash while fermenting?
It’s not a “mash”, it’s a sugar wash. A mash is made by processing grains by “mashing”. It involves temperature steps and holds to promote saccharification of the starches into sugars.

But, to answer your question … no, the activated carbon won’t affect the ferment at all. It is pH neutral so it won’t even help with the acidification that occurs naturally as a sugar wash ferments. It won’t change any of the flavors either. It will simply end up sinking to the bottom when the yeast flocculates.
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Thank you very much!
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Potiben wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 pm I am about to distill spirits by first fermenting a mash of sugar
You might like to look through our Tried and True recipe section before you start your next wash.
Plain water , sugar and yeast is far from the ideal recipe for a sugar wash.
Potiben wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 pm then using a thermostat heater 30-45°C (86-113°F) to distill spirits.
If you mean by this that you will then ferment it, then you might find 45C is to hot.......less than 40c would be better , some yeasts wont even like it that hot.
If you really do mean distill it then that's another whole ball game.
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No problem with charcoal ... I don't understand the temperature of 30-45 ° C ... you mean fermentation?
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Saltbush Bill wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 1:46 pm
If you really do mean distill it then that's another whole ball game.

He does ... he's running the Amazing Still.
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greggn wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 3:50 pm Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑
If you really do mean distill it then that's another whole ball game.

He does ... he's running the Amazing Still.
He's using a plastic fermenter "advertise" as a still.. no wonder he's all confused.. and so are we also, cause he's making turbo wash..
Anything to make a dollar..

https://amazingstill.com/the-parts/

Potiben.. you need to stop whatever you are trying to do, and read more before continuing..

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Seriously, better read up before continuing.

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https://amazingstill.com/the-parts/
More rubbish by Gert Strand , that bloke really is a charlatan :roll:
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Thank you people! I will read about this stuff!
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Someone sells a plastic bucket with a heating elements as a safe boiler 😖 and puts charcoal in an air lock?, Why, to sell more charcoal??
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StillerBoy wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:14 pm
greggn wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 3:50 pm Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑
If you really do mean distill it then that's another whole ball game.

He does ... he's running the Amazing Still.
He's using a plastic fermenter "advertise" as a still.. no wonder he's all confused.. and so are we also, cause he's making turbo wash..
Anything to make a dollar..

https://amazingstill.com/the-parts/

Potiben.. you need to stop whatever you are trying to do, and read more before continuing..

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:shock: man, this "amazing" still makes the vevor ones look good
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