First Run....Stinks!! Help please!!

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First Run....Stinks!! Help please!!

Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:45 pm

Hello everyone. My first run and this is how it was done
1. 9lbs of sugar
2. 16gms of Fleishmans yeast
3. 4 Gallon wash
4. Temperature 70f
After 5 hours it smells like eggs. Did I do something wrong? Help please!! :wtf:

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Post by firewater69 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:52 pm

Too much sugar, no nutrients, throw that mess out & pick something from the tried & true.
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Post by thatguy1313 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:55 pm

+1 on what firewater said. Slow down, research some more and try again. Tell us about your still. How's it built? What materials? How is it heated?
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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:57 pm

How much sugar should I use in a 4gallon wash? I have a Mile hi Still. I used red star yeast in a bs playing around type experiment, no sulfur smell. Fleishmans...no more!!!
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Post by thatguy1313 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:59 pm

Look at Uncle Jesse's Simple Sour Mash in tried n true. After you spend some time in the new distillers lounge.
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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:01 pm

Ray wrote:How much sugar should I use in a 4gallon wash?
Wrong question. Read firewater's response again then go pick a recipe from T&T.

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Post by ShineRunnah » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:03 pm

Ray wrote:How much sugar should I use a 4gallon wash?
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Stop asking questions that have already been answered and read, please. :wave:

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Post by Fastill » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:04 pm

The smell of yeast shitting in your drink. No nutrients, way to high starting SG. Yeast is a living organism and needs to be happy in its enviroment. Read up on some of the Tried and True Sugar washes, Like Wineos or Birdwatchers and you will start to get an idea.
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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:05 pm

Okay will do. Man I have taken every chemistry course out there....I was a straight 3.0 plus student...that was easy.....but this shit is HARD!!! :D I love challenges!!! Honestly...I have read through the newby section. Hey...things can go wrong. Got to keep on moving. Thanks guys.
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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:07 pm

If it was easy everyone would be doing it (besides the idiots on "Moonshiners).

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Post by StillLearning1 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:15 pm

Ray wrote:Okay will do. Man I have taken every chemistry course out there....I was a straight 3.0 plus student...that was easy.....but this shit is HARD!!! :D I love challenges!!! Honestly...I have read through the newby section. Hey...things can go wrong. Got to keep on moving. Thanks guys.
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Post by ShineRunnah » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:20 pm

StillLearning1 wrote: you realize ya still don't know squat!
I realize this more and more everyday....some of the folks here are just on a totally different level. I know enough to get by and make decent whisky, but some of the stuff here is very "in-depth".

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Post by StillLearning1 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:25 pm

ShineRunnah wrote:
StillLearning1 wrote: you realize ya still don't know squat!
I realize this more and more everyday....some of the folks here are just on a totally different level. I know enough to get by and make decent whisky, but some of the stuff here is very "in-depth".

I agree. That's why we all point to tried and true for people like me and OP that are new. UJSSM is not hard at all, it let's you learn the basics, and where you can take it from there is almost endless!!!
But what the heck do I know.....I am still learning.

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:28 pm

Hey this may be a dumb question, I can get all the nutrients that are needed. Pretty much...it seems like the yeast needs a multivitamin in the wash. What do you think? :?:

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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:41 pm

Please. Go read. They're beginning to circle.
Shark fin.jpg
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Post by bearriver » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:42 pm

T-Pee wrote:Please. Go read. They're beginning to circle.
Shark fin.jpg
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Indeed :econfused:

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:55 pm

LOL!!! Thats okay...only way to learn is to ask questions or to fail. I have read. And basically...the same nutrients the yeast needs seems the same thing well all need. And most of the ingredients are in multivitamins. Just thinking....has anyone tried using a multivitamin in their wash?
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Post by ShineRunnah » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:57 pm

Ray wrote:Hey this may be a dumb question, I can get all the nutrients that are needed. Pretty much...it seems like the yeast needs a multivitamin in the wash. What do you think? :?:
Ray, I gave you the link to tried and true. There are recipes there that explain all of what is needed.

If you are talking "multivitamin" like one would take every morning, I'm going to throw a can of tomato paste at you. Now go and read. Thanks.

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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:58 pm

Ray wrote:LOL!!! Thats okay...only way to learn is to fail. I have read. And basically...the same nutrients the yeast needs seems the same thing well all need. And most of the ingredients are in multivitamins. Just thinking....
NO. The way to learn here is to READ and lots of it. To learn in this hobby by failing gets you or someone you care about hurt or dead. Got it now? :problem:

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:59 pm

ShineRunnah wrote:
Ray wrote:Hey this may be a dumb question, I can get all the nutrients that are needed. Pretty much...it seems like the yeast needs a multivitamin in the wash. What do you think? :?:
Ray, I gave you the link to tried and true. There are recipes there that explain all of what is needed.

If you are talking "multivitamin" like one would take every morning, I'm going to throw a can of tomato paste at you. Now go and read. Thanks.
LOL!!! Okay will do!!! Thanks!! :thumbup:

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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:02 pm

Ray wrote:LOL!!! Okay will do!!! Thanks!! :thumbup:
*whew* Jeez. Image

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T-Pee wrote:
Ray wrote:LOL!!! Okay will do!!! Thanks!! :thumbup:
*whew!* Image

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Man!!! You guys are rough!! :clap: :thumbup: Man I am being initiated into the world of distilling.....damn!!!!! LOL!!!

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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:08 pm

Ray wrote:
T-Pee wrote:
Ray wrote:LOL!!! Okay will do!!! Thanks!! :thumbup:
*whew!* Image

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Man!!! You guys are rough!! :clap: :thumbup: Man I am being initiated into the world of distilling.....damn!!!!! LOL!!!
You think so? Ask a couple more noob questions without doing the research that we require and see if Rad doesn't show up to take you off at the knees.
We're being nice and trying desperately to keep you >4' tall.

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Post by bearriver » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:16 pm

Ray wrote: Man!!! You guys are rough!! :clap: :thumbup: Man I am being initiated into the world of distilling.....damn!!!!! LOL!!!
Oh no. Your either in or out. Looks like your in... :think:

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:48 pm

Hey...about an hour ago, just for shits and giggles...I threw a womens one a day and a mens centrum along with 2 mag-oxide tabs, along with 2 tablespoons of OJ, just to see what would happen. The sulfur smell is gradually disappearing and it is smelling more like ethanol. Not saying it is working, but since I am going to throw the wash away, I can use it as an experiment.

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:54 pm

bearriver wrote:
Ray wrote: Man!!! You guys are rough!! :clap: :thumbup: Man I am being initiated into the world of distilling.....damn!!!!! LOL!!!
Oh no. Your either in or out. Looks like your in... :think:

Make sure to keep those big boy pants handy. I keep mine under the seat. :thumbup:
Oh yes!! I am all in!! And loving it!!

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Post by T-Pee » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:01 pm

What purpose does the OJ serve?

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Post by ShineRunnah » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:14 pm

T-Pee wrote:What purpose does the OJ serve?

tp (and a leading question)
Probably citric acid to lower ph? Just throwing it out there...

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Post by Hardcider » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:23 pm

ShineRunnah wrote:
T-Pee wrote:What purpose does the OJ serve?

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Probably citric acid to lower ph? Just throwing it out there...
Exactly!! I may have gotten wrong info, but what I read said yeast like the environment at a ph of 4 to 5. Since sugar is neutral and so is water. I figured a little OJ would change the acidity to a lower PH.

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