My first.

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My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:07 pm

My first enzyme all grain.
So i am trying Booners casual all corn. My only problem is that my biggest pot is 5 gallons and I need 15 gallons of mash because my biggest pot is my still boiler.
Well i decided to try an experiment because all it can cost me is some time and corn. So my idea is to make the mash 5 gallons at a time and add it to the previous mash in the fermenter. Last night I made 5 gallons and put it in a brute and it is fizzing away now as i mash a second batch. I don't recall anyone mentioning this method in the past but i figured I would give it a try.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:14 pm

I am fermenting on the grain.
Also I don't have any back set or anything else to adjust ph so I am just going with it and I will hope for the best. I know that is not the best idea for getting great results but it will be an interesting experience.

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:36 pm

It will also be fun times you will remember
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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:40 pm

Zeotropic wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:07 pm
My first enzyme all grain.
So i am trying Booners casual all corn. My only problem is that my biggest pot is 5 gallons and I need 15 gallons of mash because my biggest pot is my still boiler.
Well i decided to try an experiment because all it can cost me is some time and corn. So my idea is to make the mash 5 gallons at a time and add it to the previous mash in the fermenter. Last night I made 5 gallons and put it in a brute and it is fizzing away now as i mash a second batch. I don't recall anyone mentioning this method in the past but i figured I would give it a try.
Go read the "easy large batch mashing" thread. I just mashed 35 pounds of corn meal and 2.5 pounds of toasted Oats in 25 gallons of water. Two boiler fills and two dough ins. Added HT enzymes after the 2nd dough in. Easy peasy. Now I just wait for the temp to drop to 150°F and add my malted grains.
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Deplorable wrote:
Zeotropic wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:07 pm
My first enzyme all grain.
So i am trying Booners casual all corn. My only problem is that my biggest pot is 5 gallons and I need 15 gallons of mash because my biggest pot is my still boiler.
Well i decided to try an experiment because all it can cost me is some time and corn. So my idea is to make the mash 5 gallons at a time and add it to the previous mash in the fermenter. Last night I made 5 gallons and put it in a brute and it is fizzing away now as i mash a second batch. I don't recall anyone mentioning this method in the past but i figured I would give it a try.
Go read the "easy large batch mashing" thread. I just mashed 35 pounds of corn meal and 2.5 pounds of toasted Oats in 25 gallons of water. Two boiler fills and two dough ins. Added HT enzymes after the 2nd dough in. Easy peasy. Now I just wait for the temp to drop to 150°F and add my malted grains.
I read that thread but the difference is that my first batch has already been fermenting for a day so i am making successive batches and adding them to an active ferment.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:14 pm

Seems like a lot of extra work that way.
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:20 pm

Durhommer wrote:It will also be fun times you will remember
That's what I figured. :D

I think I didn't hold the first batch at high temp long enough so the second one I kept above 148° for two hours before adding the second enzyme. I am just now cooling it down to fermentation temperature.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:25 pm

Deplorable wrote:Seems like a lot of extra work that way.
Yeah it was a spur of the moment idea because I read that thread after starting the first batch and i thought hey I can do that and get enough mash for 3 stripping runs. If it doesn't work I only have $10 in it.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:11 pm

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This was after the second addition of mash.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:20 pm

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Mashing the last 9 lb of corn.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:33 pm

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That SEBstar HTL is amazing.

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:10 pm

Yes it is. Did you adjust pH prior to using it?
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:36 pm

Deplorable wrote:Yes it is. Did you adjust pH prior to using it?
No because I don't have anything to use for adjustment. Next batch I will be more prepared.

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Re: My first.

Post by Tummydoc » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:42 pm

You should be fine. Glucoamylase prefers a lower pH if you add that later, but high temp youll get a good conversion without messing with pH.

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Re: My first.

Post by v-child » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:43 am

I do three separate mashes to fill a fifteen gallon fermenter in a single day. As one cools down slowly, I start another pot. The first pot cools down (slowly) I'll start filtering the grains out and by the time I am done filtering, it's cool enough to put in the fermenter. Meanwhile the second batch is done cooking/converting and the process repeats itself. I can do all fifteen gallons of mash in about six hours. Only after all three batches are mashed, filtered and cooled do I add any nutrients, gluco, ph adjustments and finally the yeast (usually the next morning). It's a juggling act but I have never had a failed mash. The HTL saves me a lot of work and allows me to keep the mash at 190 F much longer.

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:40 am

I thought I was the only one mashing in small batches
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:43 am

It was bubbling like crazy with a big head of foam this morning when I added the last mash.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:44 am

v-child wrote:I do three separate mashes to fill a fifteen gallon fermenter in a single day. As one cools down slowly, I start another pot. The first pot cools down (slowly) I'll start filtering the grains out and by the time I am done filtering, it's cool enough to put in the fermenter. Meanwhile the second batch is done cooking/converting and the process repeats itself. I can do all fifteen gallons of mash in about six hours. Only after all three batches are mashed, filtered and cooled do I add any nutrients, gluco, ph adjustments and finally the yeast (usually the next morning). It's a juggling act but I have never had a failed mash. The HTL saves me a lot of work and allows me to keep the mash at 190 F much longer.
That sounds like a much better idea for next time.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:46 am

Durhommer wrote:I thought I was the only one mashing in small batches
Nope but i sure want to upgrade soon. I picked out the parts for a modular keg still and then i would definitely want a keg pot.

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:49 am

My hb shop has a 16 gallon pot but it's cheap I too have modular parts picked up for my milkcan and keg I have I'd love to heat 15 gallon water at once itd make especially corn easier for me
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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:05 am

Durhommer wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:49 am
My hb shop has a 16 gallon pot but it's cheap I too have modular parts picked up for my milkcan and keg I have I'd love to heat 15 gallon water at once itd make especially corn easier for me
Does your can have a TC for a drain at the bottom?
Large batch mashing the SCD way works so well just opening the valve into the fermenter while pouring in grains and stirring.
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:22 am

I dont have a drain I plan on using the sankey port as a drain on my keg build tho
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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:52 am

Deplorable wrote:
Durhommer wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:49 am
My hb shop has a 16 gallon pot but it's cheap I too have modular parts picked up for my milkcan and keg I have I'd love to heat 15 gallon water at once itd make especially corn easier for me
Does your can have a TC for a drain at the bottom?
Large batch mashing the SCD way works so well just opening the valve into the fermenter while pouring in grains and stirring.
20201226_105449.jpg
I used a stamped stainless steel spoon to stir and I have blisters from it so i really need to make a nice wood paddle like you have there.

This is a couple of hours after the last mash addition. It is smelling wonderful.[IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202012 ... d608e4.jpg[/IMG]

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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:12 am

24 hours after doughing in the first half of my corn, my 26 gallon mash is 133°F. I pulled a 300ml sample and cooled it to 68F to check SG. It's 1.072 from 52.5 pounds of grain in 26 gallons. 35# corn meal, 10# wheat malt, 5# rye malt, and 2.5# toasted oats. Gonna make a fine bourbon come summer time.
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:21 am

Nice work deplorable
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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:54 am

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Smells devine
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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:21 pm

Gonna be fun squeezing it tho
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Re: My first.

Post by Deplorable » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:40 pm

Durhommer wrote:
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Gonna be fun squeezing it tho
Mop wringer will make quick work of it. 30 minutes tops.

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Re: My first.

Post by Zeotropic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:50 pm

Durhommer wrote:Gonna be fun squeezing it tho
Yep. I am planning on using a paint strainer and just letting gravity do the job. It won't be perfect but that's okay with me.

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Re: My first.

Post by Durhommer » Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:05 pm

I'm gonna play again now that Christmas is over I dont have liquid enzymes tho so I'll be using malt with my corn
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