First all grain question
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First all grain question
I picked up 2 lbs. of RAHR 2-Row Malted Barley.
What I am reading on the net says 2 row needs to be 15% of your bill.
If I do-
2 lbs - 2 row barley
5 lbs sweet frozen corn
2 lbs corn meal
2 lbs of rye bread or rye flower
do those amounts look correct?
If I did the math right that should be over 15% barley and I have amylase if I need it.
What I am reading on the net says 2 row needs to be 15% of your bill.
If I do-
2 lbs - 2 row barley
5 lbs sweet frozen corn
2 lbs corn meal
2 lbs of rye bread or rye flower
do those amounts look correct?
If I did the math right that should be over 15% barley and I have amylase if I need it.
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Re: First all grain question
If not using enzymes, I prefer 20% malt, but 15% will work (only slower) if everything else is handled properly. Not sure how much fermentable sugar is in your sweet corn, but considering its water weight, you're probably closer to 20%. Replacing the weight of your sweet corn with more cornmeal would be a good option, IMO. Gluco is good insurance.
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Re: First all grain question
I have 10 gallons of a sweet corn wash I am going to run this weekend. I used 10lbs corn, 20lbs table sugare and was on the 10 gallon mark with water. The sg was 1.098Twisted Brick wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:07 am If not using enzymes, I prefer 20% malt, but 15% will work (only slower) if everything else is handled properly. Not sure how much fermentable sugar is in your sweet corn, but considering its water weight, you're probably closer to 20%. Replacing the weight of your sweet corn with more cornmeal would be a good option, IMO. Gluco is good insurance.
And thank you for the advice on the corn meal
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Numbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:28 am I picked up 2 lbs. of RAHR 2-Row Malted Barley.
What I am reading on the net says 2 row needs to be 15% of your bill.
If I do-
2 lbs - 2 row barley
5 lbs sweet frozen corn <— RU going to “mash” this?
2 lbs corn meal <— Is this gelatinized? Flaked maize (corn) is already gelatinized.
2 lbs of rye bread or rye flower <— Hope this doesn’t become a “brick” in your mash tun.
do those amounts look correct?
If I did the math right that should be over 15% barley and I have amylase if I need it.
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
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Beer, None. I don't drink beer. Going on 3 years making wine. I know its not the same. I have done 8 or 9 runs of corn and sugar using BSG amylase to convert. I think I have about the same now with fruit and one rum run. This is the first time using a malt to convert. That is why I'm asking about the amounts.still_stirrin wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 2:08 pmNumbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:28 am I picked up 2 lbs. of RAHR 2-Row Malted Barley.
What I am reading on the net says 2 row needs to be 15% of your bill.
If I do-
2 lbs - 2 row barley
5 lbs sweet frozen corn <— RU going to “mash” this?
2 lbs corn meal <— Is this gelatinized? Flaked maize (corn) is already gelatinized.
2 lbs of rye bread or rye flower <— Hope this doesn’t become a “brick” in your mash tun.
do those amounts look correct?
If I did the math right that should be over 15% barley and I have amylase if I need it.
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
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Sweet corn - Yes, I will be mashing it.
Corn Meal - Don't know what I am going to use yet. Still looking in to it.
Rye bread/Flower - I have the same concern about it turning to a brick. I would use grain but neet to order it. The closest store to me is a 3 hour drive.
I am new to this but do my best to research things before making a bigger mess then normal
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Re: First all grain question
For your rye flour.Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 3:51 pmBeer, None. I don't drink beer. Going on 3 years making wine. I know its not the same. I have done 8 or 9 runs of corn and sugar using BSG amylase to convert. I think I have about the same now with fruit and one rum run. This is the first time using a malt to convert. That is why I'm asking about the amounts.still_stirrin wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 2:08 pmNumbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:28 am I picked up 2 lbs. of RAHR 2-Row Malted Barley.
What I am reading on the net says 2 row needs to be 15% of your bill.
If I do-
2 lbs - 2 row barley
5 lbs sweet frozen corn <— RU going to “mash” this?
2 lbs corn meal <— Is this gelatinized? Flaked maize (corn) is already gelatinized.
2 lbs of rye bread or rye flower <— Hope this doesn’t become a “brick” in your mash tun.
do those amounts look correct?
If I did the math right that should be over 15% barley and I have amylase if I need it.
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
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Sweet corn - Yes, I will be mashing it.
Corn Meal - Don't know what I am going to use yet. Still looking in to it.
Rye bread/Flower - I have the same concern about it turning to a brick. I would use grain but neet to order it. The closest store to me is a 3 hour drive.
I am new to this but do my best to research things before making a bigger mess then normal
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Re: First all grain question
10 lbs of sweet corn
1 loaf of rye bread
1/2 pound cornmeal (Found it in the pantry)
Got just under 5 galllons of wash from is with a SG of around 1.040
Had to add 4 pounds of sugar to get up to 1.078 ish.
I had a few mistakes along the way so it probably could have been a higher sg
1 loaf of rye bread
1/2 pound cornmeal (Found it in the pantry)
Got just under 5 galllons of wash from is with a SG of around 1.040
Had to add 4 pounds of sugar to get up to 1.078 ish.
I had a few mistakes along the way so it probably could have been a higher sg
Re: First all grain question
Mash temperatures are important. There is a target range where the enzymes work efficiently. Too high and you will denature them.
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Read through this, there is info on mashing difficult/sticky grains, and the temps you need: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=84742
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Oh yes citric acid powder is easy to adjust ph when you start. Eventually you might start saving the backset out of the still and make a sour mash.
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Adding citric acid if you don't know your base water chemistry is shooting in the dark.
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Well you should be testing the ph add a little, test and adjust. Repeat until happy.
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Numbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
Thany you for the advice on the beer. I don't plan on making any but looking at videos and forums is going to be a 1000% help
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What he is saying is an all grain mash is making a beer. The only difference between making a distillers beer and a brewers beer is the hops, and what happens after it leaves the fermenter.Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:10 amNumbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
Thany you for the advice on the beer. I don't plan on making any but looking at videos and forums is going to be a 1000% help
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and a few other things like on or off grain fermenting, the excessive sanitation not being required, the full conversion of starches, the boiling,Ben wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:49 amWhat he is saying is an all grain mash is making a beer. The only difference between making a distillers beer and a brewers beer is the hops, and what happens after it leaves the fermenter.Frankd0024 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:10 amNumbers look OK. But what’s your experience brewing beer, or otherwise?
This isn’t as easy as making a cake. You don’t just stir it up and wait for the end product. I suggest reading a home brew beer website forum for a lot of experience brewing a beer. Making an all-grain spirit starts with a “distiller’s beer”.
Yep…you gotta brew a beer first!
Thany you for the advice on the beer. I don't plan on making any but looking at videos and forums is going to be a 1000% help
I've done all grain beers (PITA) - whiskey is easier to make the 'beer' for!
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