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if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby copper sweat » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:11 pm

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Postby Tokoroa_Shiner » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:38 pm

Damn. Just checked mine. It has holes.
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby Prairiepiss » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:06 pm

There are already three threads about this?
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby Prairiepiss » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:11 pm

Hell its already a sticky? I thought there was already a sticky for this?
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Postby copper sweat » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:19 pm

I didn't even think to check if this already had a thread sorry guys. That's some scary crap.
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby Jerseryshiner51 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:17 am

So i have a question about the keg stills, whats the best way to clean them? I have black spots in the bottom of mine (mold probably.
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby pfshine » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:33 pm

Weird place to post that question but OK. Lots of things to do. Put some soap water and a chunk of chain or rocks in it and stir/shake the hell out of it. Or if its just mold put water a mild non sudsing detergent in it and boil it. Lots of other ways, just think about it. If you use oxyclean make sure to rinse with vinegar and water.if you have more questions you can pm me.
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Postby hawgwrench » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:53 pm

Holy Crap man....I'd have shart myself if I'd been anywhere around that. Never thought of this, gonna check now. If it aint got holes it gonna have in a minute...should the holes be .38 or .45 sized?
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Postby DAD300 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:34 pm

.17 or .22 will do...lol
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Postby hawgwrench » Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:10 am

DAD300 wrote:.17 or .22 will do...lol



I'll scale back a little then :lol:
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Postby engunear » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:40 pm

Thanks for that. It is a truly scary post. Not just the bang, but my mental picture of a pot of boiling alcohol falling over near an open flame. Yikes! Personally, I'd never use a naked flame near a flammable liquid above its boiling point. I know, heaps of guys do it, not meaning to dis them, their choice, and I guess if its outdoors its not so bad. Call me paranoid, the paranoid survive.

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Postby T-Pee » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:55 pm

What?

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Postby pfshine » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:57 pm

Fire works just fine. No more unsafe than jamming a metal rod hooked up to a 240v outlet into the pot of boiling flammables. As for the hearing loss I stopped caring about that after being a combat engineer, driving and fixing tanks, and being blown up over seas. (At mines are a bitch) but all is good it gives me an excuse to ignore my wife.
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby KYMountainMan » Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:55 pm

I cant' read the original thread as it directs you to NorthernBrewers index page for some reason. Is the link broken?
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Postby Copper Thumper » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:06 pm

Came here to say the same thing.
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Postby rumBum2 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Dyk.. when you hear a ringing inside your ears, It's your brain trying to repair itself and failing.. wait wat?? oh sorry wrong thread!
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Postby henryk-yonza » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:37 pm

KYMountainMan wrote:I cant' read the original thread as it directs you to NorthernBrewers index page for some reason. Is the link broken?

Yep dead link for me also goes to home page
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Postby DAD300 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:16 pm

Goes like this...

"Safety notice:
While brewing in the public parking lot of Hopman's Homebrew Supply in Waterford Michigan for National Homebrew day one of the homebrewer's brew kettles (converted sankey keg) exploded with such a bang my ears are still ringing! It is my luck that I happened to be visiting his brewery when the bomb went off. The burner frame was destroyed and the keg tipped spilling 10 gallons of boiling wort onto the pavement. Luckily no one was burned by the wort. Here's what we know:
This keg was manufactured differently than every other keg we examined, the rolled steel lip at the top and bottom was welded solid with no holes drilled in it. No other keg was welded solid and all of them had 4 holes drilled in the keg rim. This is the rim that contacts the ground when the keg is in upright position.
The keg built up pressure in the rim until the rim exploded
We don't know what caused the explosion inside the enclosed rim - air expansion, moisture, maybe some unburned propane (not quite sealed in that case). It exploded after boil was well underway.
What we do know is it is dangerous and you should check your kegs! If there are no holes - drill some"
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby KYMountainMan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:23 pm

I want to see pics. Was someone boiling inside a keg with the valve still intact or something? I'm not understanding the keg issue. I need pics.
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Postby Snackson » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:39 pm

KYMountainMan wrote:I want to see pics. Was someone boiling inside a keg with the valve still intact or something? I'm not understanding the keg issue. I need pics.

The bottom lip of the keg that looks like a tube and goes all the way around was welded shut. By heating with propane, the gas inside expanded until it blew. See this link for pictures of a welded bottom, http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.ph ... stcount=42
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby Old Man Bakke » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:23 pm

copper sweat wrote:http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?t=44238


Not sure what I am suppose to be seeing this link just takes me to the Northern Brewer Forum Home page
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby rgreen2002 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:31 am

Old Man Bakke wrote:
copper sweat wrote:http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?t=44238


Not sure what I am suppose to be seeing this link just takes me to the Northern Brewer Forum Home page


If I remember correctly... this post was about a beer brewer who used a keggle to mash and a heating source (propane...?). Either way, on the rolled outer edge of the keggle there were no holes in it. This caused the air that was inside it to become superheated during cooking and explode..sending hot wort all over the floor. No one was hurt but the implications are obvious. The moral of the story... check your keg and see if the rolled edge is perforated somehow... I cut most of the top of mine off and my bottom has holes.

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Postby Old Man Bakke » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:21 am

Thank you ! Really appreciate it


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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby Nunyo » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:22 pm

Very glad I read the Spoon Feed thread before starting my new hobby. That lead me to this thread. I converted a 15.5 gallon keg into a boiler pot to make mash in and as luck would have it, the rolled edge on the bottom of my keg has no holes in it. I guess I will be busting out the drill or die grinder (again) to add some holes to the bottom rolled edge. Thanks again for sharing this info and for all the other great info on this site!
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Re: if you use a keg you need to read this

Postby zapata » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:57 am

Wow, lucky find! It's amazing to me how many ways I could have died already! I remember this thread from when it happened, don't know why NB's site doesn't make it easy to find anymore. I did a little sleuthing and found the original pictures figured they might as well be here for posterity. The full thread can be read here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140210024 ... hp?t=44238
EXPLOSION! On National Homebrew Day - Converted Keg
Safety notice:
While brewing in the public parking lot of Hopman's Homebrew Supply in Waterford Michigan for National Homebrew day one of the homebrewer's brew kettles (converted sankey keg) expoded with such a bang my ears are still ringing! It is my luck that I happened to be visiting his brewery when the bomb went off. The burner frame was destroyed and the keg tipped spilling 10 gallons of boiling wort onto the pavement. Luckily no one was burned by the wort. Here's what we know:
This keg was manufactured differently than every other keg we examined, the rolled steel lip at the top and bottom was welded solid with no holes drilled in it. No other keg was welded solid and all of them had 4 holes drilled in the keg rim. This is the rim that contacts the ground when the keg is in upright position.
The keg built up pressure in the rim until the rim exploded
We don't know what caused the explosion inside the enclosed rim - air expansion, moisture, maybe some unburned propane (not quite sealed in that case). It exploded after boil was well underway.
What we do know is it is dangerous and you should check your kegs! If there are no holes - drill some! Here's some pictures

Time bomb in the background
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Boom! Here's the keg that fell
2 Boom Heres the keg that fell.JPG

Distorted burner stand
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Everyone standing in wort, looking at the failed keg
4 Everyone standing in wort ooking at the failed keg.JPG

Shrapnel
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Stamping on the keg if it matters
6 Stamping on the keg.JPG
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