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Types of Rye

Post by ol' rummie » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:05 pm

I want to make a rye whiskey, I've read threads of people using rolled, flaked, and corn Rye, but all I can get around here is annual, perrenial, or fall rye at the feed store, will any of these do the job in an uncooked recipe simular to UJSM (annual?)? Or should I make the long trip to the city and go to the Brew Shop?

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by BW Redneck » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:20 pm

Due to obscure origins, we have two types of "rye" in this language: rye grass, and rye grain. Rye grass is perennial, and is often used to seed lawns and pastures. Rye grain is an annual, and its fruits look similar to barley, and rye flour, flaked rye, etc. is made from it. You would grow this type for whiskey.
You described "fall rye" in your post. I'm assuming that it is an annual, and it's planted in the fall, goes dormant, and grows in the spring and summer like winter wheat. I have no experience with rye at all, as it's not grown often in Ohio since our climate is better suited to more profitable crops. Rye has a short growing season, so it's better suited to colder climates.
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Post by Tater » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:30 pm

annual rye Ive used with good results.Same as with winter rye But have wondered why other then maybe starch contents rye grass couldn't be used. Its a seed same as others.
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Re: Types of Rye

Post by Dnderhead » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:38 pm

perennial is grass seed very small an not much starch (looks like grass seed)

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by Hawke » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:48 pm

Maybe look at a healthfood store that sells whole grains? They should have rye grain.
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Post by ol' rummie » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:45 am

tater wrote:annual rye Ive used with good results.Same as with winter rye But have wondered why other then maybe starch contents rye grass couldn't be used. Its a seed same as others.
I picked up some annual rye, and will give it a try. If I don't like it I'll just clean it up in the reflux and drink it with pop, or run it in the lawnmower.

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Post by Old_Blue » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:07 pm

I've read threads of people using rolled, flaked, and corn Rye,
Rolled and flaked are processed and can only be found in a brew shop or online. I've never seen it in a feed store. If it was oats treated the same way it would be oat meal (ie., quaker oats) like you get in the grocery store. Some health food or hippie stores might have the rye type. I don't know, never been in either one.

Corn rye is annual rye. Corn is old English for "grain" or small grain like substances. Corned beef is beef cured with salt (corn) granules.

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by goose eye » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:31 am

dont mater what you getin aint none of my business but always read sack makein sure it aint been coated with chemicals

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Post by goinbroke2 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:35 am

In Canada, Maritimes anyway, we have a store called "The Bulk Barn" which has flaked rye.
There is also a million other grains there too. I have some idea's for once I get going.

-Organic Spelt flakes; "easier to digest than most grains, higher balance of amino acid's"
-3 Grain cereal; "ingredients: Cracked wheat,cracked rye, flax seed"

There are many others available, as time goes on I'll see what "8 grain rye" tastes like!
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Post by Hawke » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:10 am

Not so sure about Flax, anyone ever use it?
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Post by goinbroke2 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:43 am

I questioned it in another post and never got a response.
Flax would be oily I guess, other than that who knows??
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Re: Types of Rye

Post by KidGib » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:51 am

I picked up some rolled rye in the bulk food section at WINCO for 51 cents per pound. They also have rye flour at about the same price. Just wondering if anyone has tried using the flour.

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by Hawke » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:01 pm

Just wondering if anyone has tried using the flour
Haven't tried it myself but the posts I've read mostly say it's not worth the mess.
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Post by Aidas » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:34 pm

I've used flour. No problems -- settled out just fine.

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by MountedGoat » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:26 am

So I just went to the local hippie store and picked up some rye seeds (which apparently you boil with 4 part water 1 part rye seed for a rice like meal) and I have them in a little jar to see if they will eventually sprout. It has been one day and they are starting to send out little shoots (picture came out too small to see).

My question is this. I have never made beer or any thing using grains, this is malting right? If so then now I need to dry it in the oven and then I can boil it up for some delicious whiskey mash right? The stuff costs only $.79/lb so I could totally get a 5 gal wash going for a decent price. I have had trouble finding feed stores around, so this is the cheepest I have found it so far.
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Re: Types of Rye

Post by Bohunk » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:55 am

MG,
You got the right idea, that is rye malt. A tip for you, don’t dry it in the oven, temps over about 150f will kill the enzymes. Just let it sit out in the sun, I put mine on a screen so it can get air over and around it, the sun will kill the sprout and dry the rye at the same time.

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by MountedGoat » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:29 am

Sounds good, though right now is raining. When the sun comes out though, how long do I wait? Until they turn brown? Seems almost too easy if you ask me, the darn things sprouted literally overnight and I don't see how doing more would be all that much more difficult :D
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Re: Types of Rye

Post by Dnderhead » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:06 am

Some advice ,cover that sun will make it turn green not good not a good flavor cover with cloth or some thing

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Re: Types of Rye

Post by MountedGoat » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:17 am

good advice, in fact I went to the research and theory page

http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3483

there is a great conversation all about malting your own rye and once you get past the first three pages it gets into the guts of the process. Also there was mention of just tossing a blower or heater near the screen and turning it with your hand from time to time.
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