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Good store bought spirits
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:53 am
by Bob E
I used to think that Budweiser was as good as beer got until I started to brew my own.
So, can anybody recommend a good example of the different kinds of whiskey, rum, vodka, gin, brandy, or any others I could pick up?
Re: Good store bought spirits
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:36 am
by Husker
Bob E wrote:I used to think that Budweiser was as good as beer got until I started to brew my own.
So, can anybody recommend a good example of the different kinds of whiskey, rum, vodka, gin, brandy, or any others I could pick up?
what exactly do you mean by "pick up"? Do you mean store purchase, or a recipe to be able to make your own?
If recipes, I would recommend:
UJSM (uncle Jesse's Sour Mash method). It is a corn flavored sugar wash, but it makes a fine whiskey like moonshine, which can (pretty easily in my opinion), make a product that is MUCH better than Jack, Turkey, Beam, CC or about any other product you can buy.
GGGR (great great granddads' rum). This is a recipe for some fine rum.
For Vodka, you can use UJSM (it strips down to a neutral just fine), or use any "simple" sugar recipe. A good simple sugar recipe is Birdwatchers.
NOTE these recipes (and others) are in the "tried and true recipes" forum.
H.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:54 am
by wineo
Although I dont buy any whiskey anymore,heres some good ones to compare.Woodford reserve,Buffalo trace,Evan williams single barrel,Old rip van winkle.Theres lots more of them out there,and there not cheap,but all good.If you get good at this art,you can do as good or better with a lot of practice.A good oaked UJSM with good cuts and some age is as good as the ones I listed.You can move up from there!
store bought
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:01 am
by Uncle Jesse
For shelf spirits I like Evan Williams and George Dickel. Reasonably priced and I never got that headache I get after one shot of Jack Daniels.
Woodford Reserve is excellent as well if you want to spend more.
As for scotch, if you like the peat then Bowmore or Laphroaig are probably the most reasonably priced. If you like the sweeter or lighter ones, check out Ardmore which is pretty inexpensive usually. Glenfarclas, and Springbank are also nice but more pricey here in the States.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:08 pm
by wineo
I have a bottle of Mcclellands single malt islay,but dont care for it.
I like the lowland stuff myself,but havent tried that many.I like the 12year old glenlivit more than glenfiddish but wouldnt turn down either one.
The Evan Williams single barrel is really good for the money.They made better cuts and its not blended.I dont think alot of them make any cuts at all.At least it taste like they dont.You know when you see all that charcoal on those JD adds,its got to be really bad to need it.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:34 pm
by Bohunk
Got a bottle of Elijah Craig 18 year old single barrle bourbon here, been sippin on it for a while, like a good woman, I hate to see it go. I wish I could make some thing this good, but I'm too old to live that long.
The Bohunk
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:11 pm
by HookLine
Only really go for vodka myself. Finlandia is pretty clean, without being too expensive.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:40 pm
by wineo
I also always liked vodka.Ive been making some potstilled sugarwash thats much better than any vodka ive drank.I dont mix it.I drink it neat.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:41 pm
by As-Ol-Joe
I like Old Charter 12 year old, if you can find it, there seems to be a shortage this year. And Evan Williams.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:14 pm
by pintoshine
If you are just wanting to learn about the equivalent to Budweiser in the bourbon whiskey world, it would have to be Very Old Barton. The 80 proof could be used as a "Standard". It is budget whisky with a big name taste. I have sampled nearly every bourbon, and still attend tastings and dinners. I am a regular at the Bardstown Bourbon Festival and have been to the distillers dinner more than once. VOB is a good representative of the standard corn, rye, malt grain bill. It is well aged and has a medium sweetness. They use Cargil 6 row pale malt and Cargil rye. I am not advertising for anyone just my opinion. VOB is the Bud of bourbon.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:30 pm
by Usge
Bourbons
bookers bourbon
buffalo trace/eagle rare ( and their George T. Stagg -winter reserve release only- about 140proof)
Blantons single barrel
Peaty/Smokey Scotch
Laphroaig 10
Ardbeg 10
Bowmore (I like the 17- it's peaty but more sweet)
Lagavulin 16 (can be expensive depending)
Less Peat/Sweeter Scotch
Orkney-Scapa ( I think it's a 14) No peat. Like honey
Abelour A'bundah (same school as Macallan, sherry casked, but better done)
Springbank (any)
Glenfarclas (can be inconsistent)
Macallan (like sweet syrup) No peat, but very strong flavor and intensely sweet.
There have been others listed here (like Brunnabain). There are also exceptions to any rule..such as Bruichladdich which is from Islay but uses little to no peat, is more of a grassy kind of sweet...as opposed to floral.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:51 pm
by pintoshine
No one is talking about vodkas are they wineo? I use Skyy Vodka as my standard. I haven't hit it yet. This stuff is about as clean as it gets and has a moderate smoothness. I tried some ultra pure lab grade alcohol and water once. This stuff was reagent grade and it was smooth. It was ETOH and deionized H2O mixed and man was it the smoothest vodka I ever had, but it was absolutely flavorless. Skyy is s bit less smooth and a bit more flavorful.
This would be my pick for The Budweiser of vodkas.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:23 pm
by wineo
I think your right about skyy being the standard for taste.I used to drink alot of stoli more than any but I prefer a potstilled sugarwash for vodka now.It has less flavor at the start,and most of the flavors are close to the end.Smoother than the storebought.Im saving it up for a 2nd pot run.I may use backset in the final run to put some flavor back.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:00 pm
by Bob E
Yeah, I ment to purchase, but I'll be keeping those recipies in mind.
There's enough here to keep my wallet empty for a while
How 'bout rum?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:42 am
by HookLine
Back in my first career I had access to lab grade ethanol. We used it to make fruit punch for parties and always had one bowl (new garbage bin actually) with ethanol, and one without, and you couldn't tell which was which by taste. We had to label them.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:56 am
by rumbaba
HookLine wrote:Back in my first career I had access to lab grade ethanol. We used it to make fruit punch for parties and always had one bowl (new garbage bin actually) with ethanol, and one without, and you couldn't tell which was which by taste. We had to label them.
That must have made for some wicked staff parties
Dohh I forgot which was which
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:23 pm
by Cruiser
Rums
Since starting this hobby I've bought a number of better quality rums to use a bench-marks and to see what style I liked best. Most people in Australia reckon Bundaberg Rum is the only one but I think it's crap (although the Distiller's No 3 ain't bad). I'm gradually educating them to what rum should really taste like and it doesn't take long to convince them.
My recommendations would be:
Ron Matusalem Classico (Dominican Republic), AU$50, the Gran Reserva is good too but expensive at $65.
Mount Gay Extra Old (Barbados), $45 - this is what I model my rum on
Any of the Appleton Estate (Jamaica) rums but the VX is cheapest and very nice for $35
Havana Club Anejo 7 Anos (Cuba), can't remember the price
Cruiser.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:08 pm
by Butch50
Glenmorangie in the Port was the best scotch I ever tasted.
As for whisky I prefer Evan Williams.
For gin I like Tanqueray.
Beer would be Guiness.
For vodka, I like Seagrams. I know it isn't the usual choice, but to me it is a very good vodka.
I don't drink much else.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 am
by riff42
HookLine wrote:Back in my first career I had access to lab grade ethanol. We used it to make fruit punch for parties and always had one bowl (new garbage bin actually) with ethanol, and one without, and you couldn't tell which was which by taste. We had to label them.
Funny you should mention that.
Is that stuff actually drinkable?! Ours is from Fischer.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:47 am
by HookLine
Well, the stuff we were getting was made on site, and was extremely clean. Lab grade ethanol is usually very clean because they can't afford to have any contaminants.
Can't vouch for Fischer's stuff.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:40 pm
by defcon4
As far as whiskey goes, I love the rich caramel oak flavor of Evan Williams
Vodka: Grey Goo$e
Beer: Only my homebrew (all grain)
Rum: not a big fan
Favorite girl drink (when everything else is out of stock): Bailey's
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:48 pm
by Skymeat
Beefeater, or Cascade Gin
Three Olive, or Mazama (peppered) Vodka
And the hoppiest IPA's I can get.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:44 am
by rumbaba
Cruiser wrote:Rums
Since starting this hobby I've bought a number of better quality rums to use a bench-marks and to see what style I liked best. Most people in Australia reckon Bundaberg Rum is the only one but I think it's crap (although the Distiller's No 3 ain't bad). I'm gradually educating them to what rum should really taste like and it doesn't take long to convince them.
My recommendations would be:
Ron Matusalem Classico (Dominican Republic), AU$50, the Gran Reserva is good too but expensive at $65.
Mount Gay Extra Old (Barbados), $45 - this is what I model my rum on
Any of the Appleton Estate (Jamaica) rums but the VX is cheapest and very nice for $35
Havana Club Anejo 7 Anos (Cuba), can't remember the price
Cruiser.
Love the Mount Gay, Cruiser. I have tried, and I think am succeeding, in getting close to their flavor but better. I agree, Bundy is NOT good. If you have to settle for a store bought Aussie rum, go for the Beenliegh.
I have just realised I am now in the class of "rumrunner"! Woohoo! But why is Hookline still an "apprentice" with 543 posts?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:32 am
by HookLine
rumbaba wrote:I have just realised I am now in the class of "rumrunner"! Woohoo! But why is Hookline still an "apprentice" with 543 posts?
Must be a slow learner.
Also just noticed that you said 543 posts, but now it says 527 on my profile info. Wonder if there is something playing up in the profiles?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:12 pm
by belialNZ
Still Spirits Apricot Brandy is VERY popular at my house. Cherry brandy just tasted sweet, but the apricot one actually has a nice apricot taste.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:21 pm
by bronzdragon
I like George Dickel whiskey. I used to drink JD, but a friend of mine turned me on to Dickel and I like it better then JD black label and it's several dollars cheaper per bottle.
Of course now for some reason they've stopped selling it in my region.
~r~
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:36 am
by junkyard dawg
Evan williams is good and cheap...
woodford is really good, Basil hayden, bookers. I like bulliet, as much for the bottle anymore. corner creek...theres a bunch of good whiskey out here.
I think its apples and oranges to compare homemade to commercial. like comparing homegrown tomatos to storebought. sometimes its better, sometimes its fulla worms...
almost always fun tho...
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:53 am
by Bsnapshot
Rums - Appleton Reserve
Spiced rum - Sailor Jerry
Whiskey - Makers Mark or Knob Creek
Vodka - Rehorst Premium Milwaukee Vodka
Gin - Rehorst Premium Milwaukee Gin
Beer My own home made or Sprecher or Lake Front