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UJSM question

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:31 pm
by Bastardo
I'm going to try my hand at the UJSM recipe, but the only readily available corn is the stuff you find in the bulk food section of the grocery store. It is dried kernels, and called popping corn, will this work if I crack it myself?

Or would the frozen type work? thanks

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:41 pm
by wineo
Get the kind you feed the birds.Just plain old cracked corn.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:43 pm
by MisterSteve124
They sell it at pet food stores and farm/feed stores, check there.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:12 pm
by BW Redneck
I'd imagine that popcorn would be very hard to crack.

Like others have said, look at a feed mill or pet food store for plain, old cracked corn.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:00 pm
by mtnwalker2
This got me to thinking. I have about 10# of specialty popcorn seed to plant this spring. Has anyone ever popped corn instead of the long boil, prior to the mash? Sounds feasable, though might have to put it through a cider or wine press to get all the wash, or just use a double boiler?

Was this Popcorn Sutton's secret recipe?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:10 pm
by arkansas
Pop corn, hmmmm


Maybe a new idea coming to the pop, I might smell smoke here :D

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 pm
by junkyard dawg
the frozen corn works pretty well. bag of cracked is cheap tho...

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 pm
by firefly
Bastardo....have a look at home depot....I seen some huge bags last time I went ....and i believe they were for birds....... :D

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:58 pm
by ER70S-2
I just bought cracked corn this week in central/southern Ontario for this recipe. Just do a search for horse feed and you can buy it at any of these places, lots of them around.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:38 pm
by BeerGuy
Kind of makes me wonder how "Popcorn Sutton" got his name.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:11 pm
by Bastardo
The same thought entered my mind.... I think I found a place nearby
that sells horse feed, so they may have it. I checked the pet food stores and they only have the dried corn on cobb for birds. I'm in the city so there are no tractor supply companies nearby and I didn't want to have to drive out to the country..

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:53 pm
by ER70S-2
If you can't find it close by then try Milton just east on the 401 from Toronto, it's not too far especially since they sell it in a 25kg bag so it will last you a while.
Er70s-2

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:23 pm
by Bastardo
Thanks... but I'm in Vancouver..... I'll have to drive out to the Valley.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:22 pm
by pintoshine
ok, I'm strange I know bu poor folk do weird things. I had some popcorn left over from the night before, before I moved out from my mom's house. I was hungry and added milk and sugar to the popcorn from the night before. Yes it was a bit stale but it was good. At least as good as puffed rice or puffed wheat. I would think popped corn would convert rather easily. It is all out there for the conversion after all.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:25 pm
by pintoshine
Another thing. LOts of folks on the yahoo distillers forum have been having a good deal of sucess at getting corn flavor by using corn flakes. It is vitamin fortified and it is cooked corn, but this idea sound like the optimum for a corn flavored sugar wash.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:48 am
by Husker
pintoshine wrote:Another thing. LOts of folks on the yahoo distillers forum have been having a good deal of sucess at getting corn flavor by using corn flakes. It is vitamin fortified and it is cooked corn, but this idea sound like the optimum for a corn flavored sugar wash.
I have done a corn flake (and a raisin bran) sugar wash (couple of them actually), and they are pretty darn nice. Flavor was better than the first couple runs of UJSM as far as corny moonshine goes. Also, they ferment pretty strongly, with just sugar and crushed cereal. I did boil to invert the sugar, and to kill any nasties within the corn flakes. I put in sugar to target 11% ABV, and used whiskey with AG yeast. I back computed between 12 to 12.5% by the time I boiled it off, so the cereal did add to the product, more than just flavor. The raisin bran had sugar in the cereal, so I only put in enough sugar to get 9% and still ended up with close to 12%.

I think Cheeros would be another good cerial. Oats and corn I think. I have not tried it, but I bet it would do fine.

Cereal washes like that are the poor mans wash. If you can get the feed stock for near free (old stock, damaged stock, etc), then you are back to the cost of sugar and yeast. However, I do find that the real UJSM is also cheap, and works like a charm to produce some damn fine shine.

Some cereals probably have so much sugar in them, that you could get by with just the cooked cereal as your wash. So, one could make some "boo berry" shine :)

H.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:03 am
by As-Ol-Joe
[quote="Husker"]"boo berry" shine
:lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:10 am
by Husker
Wonder if "lucky charms" would make an faux Irish whiskey ? :) :lol: :)