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Some stuff rumored to be pretty good.
https://ferm-solutions.net/product-category/enzymes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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MoonBreath wrote:Some stuff rumored to be pretty good.
https://ferm-solutions.net/product-category/enzymes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Thanks, I looked at those before, and they do look like what I want. I hope they sell in the liter quantity retail to individuals, anybody know if they do or not? White Labs only sells to breweries, distilleries or home brew shops, no direct sales to individuals according to their web page. I am not ready to order yet, I will be out of operation basking in the sun at an RV park in Arizona until April.
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yes they sell liters to people pretty friggin reasonable too. about 16 bux IIRC

try their yeast too. goes off like a firecracker and makes some nice whiskey.
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HDNB wrote:yes they sell liters to people pretty friggin reasonable too. about 16 bux IIRC

try their yeast too. goes off like a firecracker and makes some nice whiskey.
Thanks, I will definitely place an order when I get back from AZ!
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Yup and there 917 yeast is a kick ass whiskey for 11 bucks.
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I have both enzymes they work well, the 927 yeast made some good rum and whiskey, the 048 gives a more floral whiskey Dr Pat told me, I used it but have not run it. I also have the vodka yeast which I’m going to try with rice and distillers malt along with the enzymes for a gin base. Ferm Solutions has been good to me so far, he helped me create a process for doing the corn with enzymes that is easy and fast, the prices are also very fair in my opinion
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Link is in My Favorites... thanks, MoonBreath.
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fizzix wrote: And how did you get that flaming Topic icon?
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Lol, HDNB.

I split this topic from another one, to keep it from being locked and buried among an unneeded thread. Gave it an icon, as it is a great new source for our enzymes.

Moonbreath gets to be OP because he was the first off topic poster of the old thread :lol:
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Have to confess I have always used malted grains, probably should give enzymes a go. Would like to do both and a side by side taste test.
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I ordered from them after seeing a post on the thread about pinto's troubles. Enzymes and yeast are both fairly priced in quantities that make sense for our use and shipped fast. I use the 921 for both rum and whiskey ferments.

Their distillery side also makes a really fine kentucky straight bourbon and rye.
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Bushman wrote:Have to confess I have always used malted grains, probably should give enzymes a go. Would like to do both and a side by side taste test.
Malted grains are what I use for conversion in the standard temperature range, 140-160 df. I have used White Labs Opti-Ferm along with the malted grains as sort of "insurance," just because I had it but I do not believe it is necessary at all. But what you cannot do with malted grains is what the the high temp enzyme does. The way it thins out the "corn stew" is nothing short of amazing to watch. I am really looking forward to giving the Ferm-Solutions high temp enzyme a try, since the Opti-Mash and Opti-Ferm I have were purchased in 2015 and are 2 years past their expiration dates!
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I am currently using these and had a little info to add, in case someone else orders and don't receive any instruction as I did.

AHA optimum temp 150-190 and Ph 5.5-6.5
Gluco optimum temp 90-110 Ph 5.5-6.5

This was after a phone call requesting info after purchase. Is there anyone else that is using their products that have used them at the above guidelines and found they work better at another range?
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That's around where I use them. I do start higher for the gluco at around 135, but it drops to there.

For what it's worth, I think these are the manufacturer instructions for the enzymes they repackage and sell. I don't know that for a fact, but the names match. I've gotten good results following the instructions here:

https://en.angelyeast.com/products/enzy ... a-400.html

https://en.angelyeast.com/products/enzy ... a-150.html
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MtRainier wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:14 pm That's around where I use them. I do start higher for the gluco at around 135, but it drops to there.

For what it's worth, I think these are the manufacturer instructions for the enzymes they repackage and sell. I don't know that for a fact, but the names match. I've gotten good results following the instructions here:

https://en.angelyeast.com/products/enzy ... a-400.html

https://en.angelyeast.com/products/enzy ... a-150.html
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Reading through those instructions the gluco is WAY different than what I was told over the phone when I asked for instructions. These sound more realistic, but he did say that I was how they were doing it at their distillery.

Maybe they do it for simplicity since I did it as they said, didn't do any adjustment of Ph and the gluco went in at 5.8 and 6.1, if the cheapo Amazon meter was even close. I would have thought the corn should have brought it lower than that, but its bubbling away so I'm not complaining.
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I hear ya. Here's how I use them in my 20 gallon batches.

I've mostly used these enzymes for mashes mostly made of 80% coarsely ground corn and 10% unmalted crushed rye with 10% malted barley. I bring the corn up to a boil with about 2lbs per gallon and cook it for around 30 minutes. I dump in their alpha-amylase at boiling temp while it's still bubbling away at the end of that boil time and it thins right out. I never check pH for the alpha, figuring it's at least a little acidic from the corn, but I don't really know. I also dump in the rye at that time and let it kind of cool naturally for another 30 min or so. The rye doesn't seem to need as much cooking and I've heard that anything over 180F increases bad flavors.

I cool the bunch down to 135 and then add the malted barley and gluco-amylase after checking the pH. I usually have to add a little bit of citric acid to drop it. I let that cool naturally for 90 minutes and then start cooling. When it gets to 80 I check pH and pitch yeast and let it go. I check pH a day later and add powdered calcium carbonate if it seems to be dropping too low.
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Just ordered a quart of each the enzymes and 917 yeast. Will see how it does. Excited to give it a whirl.
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I'm almost out of my enzymes from Pintoshine, so I ordered a liter of each from them today.
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Deplorable wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:59 am I'm almost out of my enzymes from Pintoshine, so I ordered a liter of each from them today.
I'm sure you'll enjoy their products. I've been using them for a good while now. The yeasts are good too
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dieselduo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:14 pm
Deplorable wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:59 am I'm almost out of my enzymes from Pintoshine, so I ordered a liter of each from them today.
I'm sure you'll enjoy their products. I've been using them for a good while now. The yeasts are good too
Good. I'll be doing a lot of corn this winter, so I'm going to be using them a lot. I think I have about 2 more mashes worth of Pinto's two 4 ounce bottles.
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threw down 100 lbs of corn with 50 gallon of water and hit 1.055=7% with these enzymes this weekend. I really Like them. Awesome tool to have in the arsenal.
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Just ordered

FSI-917 - 500 grams × 1 $11.00
AHA-400 Enzyme - 1.2kg × 1 $16.00
GA-150 Enzyme - 1.2kg × 1 $14.00
Subtotal: $41.00
Shipping: $18.71 via Ground (UPS)
Freight Surcharge: $1.64

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I haven't ordered enzymes in a while. Is this the go to place for them?
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I sure hope so because I just ordered both types of enzymes from them yesterday. Was surprised that shipping to the west coast costs as much as the product. Otis
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MtRainier wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:14 pm For what it's worth, I think these are the manufacturer instructions for the enzymes they repackage and sell. I don't know that for a fact, but the names match. I've gotten good results following the instructions here:
https://en.angelyeast.com/products/enzy ... a-400.html
Thanks for that. Even though the temperatures listed are different between FERM Solutions and Angelyeast I'd be they are the same product too. My concern is if the enzyme denatures at boiling temp which both manufacturers seem to indicate it doesn't.
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OtisT wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:47 am I sure hope so because I just ordered both types of enzymes from them yesterday. Was surprised that shipping to the west coast costs as much as the product. Otis
Yeah. I put an order together, and the shipping is almost as much as the order :(
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frunobulax wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:51 pm
OtisT wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:47 am I sure hope so because I just ordered both types of enzymes from them yesterday. Was surprised that shipping to the west coast costs as much as the product. Otis
Yeah. I put an order together, and the shipping is almost as much as the order :(
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still a bargain. 16 buck for a liter, some of the other places were/are charging 16 bucks for 4 oz plus shipping.
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HDNB wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:10 pm
still a bargain. 16 buck for a liter, some of the other places were/are charging 16 bucks for 4 oz plus shipping.
+1

The several times I bought the Enzymash HTL and SEBAmyl Gluco kits from Pint it cost me $25 (delivered) for the pair of 4oz bottles. At the recommended dosages this worked out to $1.50 for 16 x 12gal mashes.

The Ferm-Solutions require a higher dosage for each enzyme, but still, the Ferm-Solutions work out $.88/batch. This assumes (per Otis) doubling the product price to calculate shipping to the west coast.

Those who have experience with the GA-150, are you mashing with it or following the directions to add it to the ferment along with your yeast? I would think doing the latter might skew your SG numbers.
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