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distillers yeast?

Post by akrandy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:39 pm

hi im going to make birdwacthers wash and was woundering about distillers yeast instead of bakers. if i use distillers yeast do i still need to put in the tomato past and lemons? or if i end up useing bakers does it matter what kind? please help thanks akrandy
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Post by rad14701 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:10 pm

With Distillers Yeast you are running a turbo wash and tomato paste would not be required... And that would not be a Birdwatchers wash... You'd be further ahead doing a standard Birdwatchers wash as per the original recipe... Avoid the temptation to fall victim to the greed factor that turbo yeast lures unknowing novices towards...

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Post by akrandy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:59 pm

right on thanks for the info i will go with the bakers yeast. does it matter what kind? or is there a certain brand that stick out, thats better or does it not matter?
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Post by Tater » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:03 pm

No doesn't matter what brand .I myself like Fleischmann's myself.
I use a pot still.Sometimes with a thumper

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Post by akrandy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:13 pm

dry yeast or instant? for the bakers is what i ment
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Post by rad14701 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:26 pm

akrandy wrote:dry yeast or instant? for the bakers is what i ment
They work equally well, for the most part... "Quik-Rise" or "Instant" merely has a bit of ascorbic acid added which, when used to make bread rise, causes more rapid CO2 production and can also help slow or stop the rise after a period of time... The ascorbic acid also has a preservative trait to it but this is not the intended purpose when added to bakers yeast...

I prefer standard Fleischmann's bakers yeast over "instant" or "Quik-Rise"...

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Post by akrandy » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:42 pm

awesome thanks for your time and knowlage. off to the store i go, i will use your recomendation thanks akrandy
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Post by astronomical » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:14 pm

rad14701 wrote:With Distillers Yeast you are running a turbo wash and tomato paste would not be required... And that would not be a Birdwatchers wash... You'd be further ahead doing a standard Birdwatchers wash as per the original recipe... Avoid the temptation to fall victim to the greed factor that turbo yeast lures unknowing novices towards...
so CB DADY is turbo yeast?

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Post by rtalbigr » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:40 am

astronomical wrote:
rad14701 wrote:With Distillers Yeast you are running a turbo wash and tomato paste would not be required... And that would not be a Birdwatchers wash... You'd be further ahead doing a standard Birdwatchers wash as per the original recipe... Avoid the temptation to fall victim to the greed factor that turbo yeast lures unknowing novices towards...
so CB DADY is turbo yeast?
CB DADY is not a turbo.

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Post by Oxbo Rene » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:54 am

From day one, I've always used CB Distillers yeast (1/4 cup to 6 gal ferment) = no problem .........
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Post by Fusefinder » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:22 am

I have read that Distillers yeast is optimized at 90+/- deg.
Is a lower temp of 70-80 deg an issue?
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Post by Durace11 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:29 am

In most cases lower temp means slower ferment, this can be a good thing to a certain extent. Too low temp can stall a ferment but 70°F-80°F should be fine and may even prevent some off-flavors associated with higher temp fermentation. I believe bread yeast does very well in the 80°F range.
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Post by Tater » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:28 pm

rad14701 wrote:With Distillers Yeast you are running a turbo wash and tomato paste would not be required... And that would not be a Birdwatchers wash... You'd be further ahead doing a standard Birdwatchers wash as per the original recipe... Avoid the temptation to fall victim to the greed factor that turbo yeast lures unknowing novices towards...
I use a distillers yeast that isn't a turbo. It does well for hot summer time ferments
I use a pot still.Sometimes with a thumper

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Post by mash rookie » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:49 pm

I find the CB distillers yeast a little more tolerant of temp swings and does well at higher temperatures. Bakers yeast adds a nice rich flavor in grain ferments. I stay 8-10% ABV washes with bakers yeast and go 10-12% with distillers yeast. Distillers yeast seems cleaner tasting. Just my opinion.

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Post by akrandy » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:22 am

On my next batch I'm going to try distillers yeast. And then I'll post the results as far as tast goes
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Post by rtalbigr » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:00 am

I e-mailed Crosby& Baker a good while ago and got them to send me the data sheet on the C&B DADY. It made by Fermentis (A French company) and it is a S. cerevisiae strain specially designed for grain mash ferments for whiskeys. It is best for ferments at 85-89F (doesn't do that well over 90F) and has an alcohol tolerance of about 13%. It also work best when re-hydrated before pitching. Pitching rate should be 1-2 teaspoons/5 gal depending of specific gravity.

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Post by mash rookie » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:25 am

rtalbigr wrote:I e-mailed Crosby& Baker a good while ago and got them to send me the data sheet on the C&B DADY. It made by Fermentis (A French company) and it is a S. cerevisiae strain specially designed for grain mash ferments for whiskeys. It is best for ferments at 85-89F (doesn't do that well over 90F) and has an alcohol tolerance of about 13%. It also work best when re-hydrated before pitching. Pitching rate should be 1-2 teaspoons/5 gal depending of specific gravity.

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Big R, Is C&B DADY something different than what I purchase as C&B distillers yeast? What is the “DADY” acronym?
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Post by rtalbigr » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:46 am

mash rookie wrote:
Big R, Is C&B DADY something different than what I purchase as C&B distillers yeast? What is the “DADY” acronym?
Thanks, MR
DADY is Distiller's Active Dry Yeast. I would think it is the same. Mine comes in a gold colored foil 1 lb pack.

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Post by rtalbigr » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:42 am

MR - I just went and got some today. My package has Distiller's Yeast in bold and in small print under says Distiller's Active Dry Yeast. So I about positive they're the same.

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Post by ginjo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:19 pm

The C&B distillers' yeast I have is from Alltech, not Fermentis. The Fermentis stuff I also have costs about 10x as much.

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Post by akrandy » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:31 pm

So have either of you use the distillers yeast in the birdwatchers ? how does it taste and does it do the same as Baker's yeast
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Post by RevSpaminator » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:10 pm

akrandy wrote:So have either of you use the distillers yeast in the birdwatchers ? how does it taste and does it do the same as Baker's yeast
I just finished a batch of Birdwatchers made with C&D distillers yeast. It works just fine. Most importantly, don't worry, be patient and give whatever yeast you used time to do its thing.
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Post by akrandy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:35 pm

Right on thanks
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