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Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:53 am

I started two separate 5 gal ferments of UJSSM seven days ago exactly as outlined here on HD but used safale US05 for the first time. Starting SG 1.60 and is only at 1.40 today. The packets were 11.5 grams each, I used one per 5 gal. Was this perhaps not enough yeast? I typically use a whiskey yeast or bakers of basically the same amount and have never had any problems but wanted to try something different as I'm learning every day. I have also kept the temps at the specified or preferred temp of 71-72 as per manufacturer.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:00 pm

It's actually indoors at a constant 71-72 maybe 73degf max.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:14 pm

I'm still getting a bubble from the airlocks on both fermenters at a rate of around 1 every 6sec.
Mash in both batches is at 71degf.
5 gal water
7lbs cracked corn
7lbs granulated sugar
1 packet of safale us05
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Bing-Bot » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:06 pm

Any nutrients?
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:07 pm

No, not this go around.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Prairiepiss » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:14 pm

I hope 1.6 and 1.4 are typos. And should be with the amount of sugar used.

It sounds like its still working. I wouldn't worry about it. Let it finish. Some yeast take longer then others.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:31 pm

LOL yeah it was a typo for sure. 1.060 & 1.040 is what is actually is. If that had been the case it would have explained a lot for sure Prairiepiss! I'll give it a few more days and see what happens.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Beerbrewer » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:38 pm

I use this a lot for beer, it usually takes about two weeks for it to chew through a 1060 beer. I tend to rehydrate the yeast an hour or so beforehand just to be on the safe side.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:41 pm

@Beerbrewer, thanks for the heads up. I'll give it two weeks total & see what I have. I need more fermenters! LOL
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:44 pm

One thing also I might add that I have noticed is that the wart seems a bit more sour than with the High spirits whiskey yeast or redstar dry active. Is that most likely due to the safale yeast?
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Beerbrewer » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:55 pm

What do you mean by sour?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP7zXMGMiHE

That type of sour?
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:56 pm

@Beerbrewer, at first it seemed a bit on the vinegar side and now tonight I checked again and it indeed has turned for the worst. The wash is nothing but vinegar. Not sure exactly what happened and this is my first wash that didn't ferment correctly for me. I have tossed both batches and starting over. Thanks for everyones response. :)
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Beerbrewer » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:30 am

Sounds like acetobacter infection, you'll probably going to need a pretty good clean of your FV.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Prairiepiss » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:50 am

If it was indeed vinegar. I would clean everything that was used. And everything that was around. So basically everything including the kitchen sink. LOL
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:14 pm

Done & done Prairiepiss. Thanks...
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby jetkrazee » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:20 pm

@rockchucker22, might not have turned to vinegar but it sure smelled like pure apple cider vinegar to me. But, Iam relatively new to the hobby so maybe it was a bacterial. I ditched both batches and cleaned the living he** outta everything. Started Odin's cornflake recipe and it's fermenting like gang busters. First cooking for conversion process I have done. Did the iodine test and came out good to go! Feeling really motivated. :)
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Jimy Dee » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:07 am

Hello folks
I purchased this yeast for a corn 70% / malted barley 30% / malted rye 10% recipe. I just wish to add that it can take 2 to 3 days for this yeast to start firing on all cylinders. Thanks to Jimbo for setting me straight on this point. First 24 hours not a budge. Next 24 hours saw life. The end of the next 24 hours saw a nice layer of grains floating on top of the fermenting liquid with the yeast lifting along under full sail. The smell is wonderful and fruity, similar to fermenting white wine. It is fizzing full steam. Looking forward to this yeast finishing its job. From earlier posts herein I am giving it 2 weeks, time will tell. My previous efforts were with bakers yeast and molasses, but that is a formula 1 race car in comparison to this US 05 yeast.
Hope this helps other novices like me.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:49 am

Jimy Dee wrote:Hello folks
I purchased this yeast for a corn 70% / malted barley 30% / malted rye 10% recipe.
Jimy


Jimy, is this a "Spinal Tap" recipe (goes to 11) as you have a grain bill of 110%. :P
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Jimy Dee » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:51 am

Well spotted Redwood - sipping on too much whiskey me thinks. It is 60% corn. :D
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:52 am

Jimy Dee wrote:Well spotted Redwood - sipping on too much whiskey me thinks. It is 60% corn. :D


What is this "too much whiskey" that you speak of? :)
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Jimy Dee » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:54 am

Dingle jingle - you are well informed. Say hi to all those redwoods please.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Shine0n » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:51 am

Hope you're sipping on some rum too. lol
Heya Jim!

I but some US 05 the other day and plan to use it in a trial batch of bourbon early next year.

Hope it works out for ya!!!
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Jimy Dee » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:19 pm

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Dont worry, I will follow in due course with how long it took for my 110% bourbon to ferment out.
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby TDick » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:07 am

I was looking for input on the US 05 compared to baker's yeast.
But the older posts were a bit concerning.
And Jimy Dee & Shine On, no offense but I don't know WHAT the hell y'all were talking about!
:wtf:

I can only guess some quart jars were destroyed in the writing of those posts.
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I'm working on some Jimbo's Wheated Bourbon and he suggests US 05 among other yeasts.
Just trying to get an idea of the pros/cons of it compared to my standby Fleishmans.
Also saw this on Ebay. NOT Turbo!
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:03 pm

I really like US 05 for my whiskeys

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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:07 pm

I also wouldn't trust repackaged yeast from an ebay seller

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Re: Safale US 05

Postby TDick » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:08 pm

Jimy Dee wrote:Hello folks
I purchased this yeast for a corn 70% / malted barley 30% / malted rye 10% recipe. I just wish to add that it can take 2 to 3 days for this yeast to start firing on all cylinders. Thanks to @Jimbo for setting me straight on this point. First 24 hours not a budge. Next 24 hours saw life....
Hope this helps other novices like me.
Jimy


Just wanted to bump this a little. I've been using Jimbo's Wheated Bourbon/Gumball and Jimbo uses US 05 so I got some today. It sounds a little "tedious" especially for a NOOB and in this cold weather.
Wanted to get an update on how yours is doing.
Thanks!
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Re: Safale US 05

Postby Jimy Dee » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:24 am

Bamaberry
I am really pleased with this yeast. It fermented down to a final gravity of 1.000, and worked steady and hard. Took 2 weeks to finish out.
I spent yesterday stripping and I have more stripping to do today. It may be next weekend before I get to do the final spirit run. Now strip can be rough tasting but I managed to taste a drop of hearts and it was smooth and tasty. Now this was literally a finger under the spout and straight to the mouth. I am looking forward to the final product. Now I am steam stripping on the grain with a thumper especially made for the job. My steam stripping thumper is a full size beer keg (same as the pot) but has a 4 inch port hole for putting in slop and cleaning etc. I am putting 30 liters of grain slop into it, with water in the pot, and getting around 3 liters of strip, stripping to just under 20% ABV. I increased the liebig condenser length from 2 foot to 4 foot and it has been a really good move as I can drive my rig much faster for stripping, now taking a little over an hour to strip the 30 liters of slop, that is from the time I get a steady stream of output. It takes around 1 hour heating to get to the output to a steady flow. Thats my update so far. I will give a comment on the final spirit in due course. Hope this helps. Jimy.
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