Today I was gifted 2 barrels! A 5 gallon and a 15 gallon. Both filled only once and dumped this week by a local small distillery.
I make bourbon / whiskey and have only ~4 gallons of UJSSM at 65% ready for a barrel. My fermenter is a 30 gallon (~120 liter) poly drum and I currently have an 18 gallon Angel yeast yellow batch fermenting....10 days now. I have another 800 grams of Angel and all the grains to go with it and fully stocked feed stores within a few miles. I have other fermenters and yeasts to use as well.
So you say 'that's not so bad'....but there's a problem which I hope I can overcome. Possibly a BIG problem!
The 5 gallon barrel is a barrel of unknown brand and it WAS FILLED WITH AGAVE.
The 15 gallon barrel is a Barrel Mill brand barrel and it WAS FILLED WITH BITTERS.
How can I "rinse" or clean or "condition" these barrels for whiskey? ......can I?
The agave barrel may not be so bad but the bitters barrel is pretty powerful.
Could I rinse-rinse-rinse-rinse then bung them and put in the 4 gallons of UJSSM then roll them around them for a while?
How about a hot backset soak? How about some trub from a whiskey ferment from my Angel yeast yellow? ... What would the koji / rhizopus / oryzae do to the barrel?
Any Ideas guys?
Thanks,
-Hormesis-.
Barrel Advise Needed ....soon
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Agave barrel as you suggest will probably be fine to use, just find a combination which will benefit from its influence.Hormesis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:44 am Today I was gifted 2 barrels! A 5 gallon and a 15 gallon. Both filled only once and dumped this week by a local small distillery.
I make bourbon / whiskey and have only ~4 gallons of UJSSM at 65% ready for a barrel. My fermenter is a 30 gallon (~120 liter) poly drum and I currently have an 18 gallon Angel yeast yellow batch fermenting....10 days now. I have another 800 grams of Angel and all the grains to go with it and fully stocked feed stores within a few miles. I have other fermenters and yeasts to use as well.
So you say 'that's not so bad'....but there's a problem which I hope I can overcome. Possibly a BIG problem!
The 5 gallon barrel is a barrel of unknown brand and it WAS FILLED WITH AGAVE.
The 15 gallon barrel is a Barrel Mill brand barrel and it WAS FILLED WITH BITTERS.
How can I "rinse" or clean or "condition" these barrels for whiskey? ......can I?
The agave barrel may not be so bad but the bitters barrel is pretty powerful.
Could I rinse-rinse-rinse-rinse then bung them and put in the 4 gallons of UJSSM then roll them around them for a while?
How about a hot backset soak? How about some trub from a whiskey ferment from my Angel yeast yellow? ... What would the koji / rhizopus / oryzae do to the barrel?
Any Ideas guys?
Thanks,
-Hormesis-.
For the 15g, you're not going to get bitter oils out of the wood structure by rinsing. Leaching with UJ might work to get *most* out, if you left it for long enough, but unless you really want UJ bitters I wouldn't.
Stepping back for a moment, 15g is a huge barrel at the hobby scale.... filling it is going to be like 600+lbs of grain mashing. And then to bet that much effort on a odd flavor barrel, wouldn't be something I would do.
Two options I can think of 1) break down, and restore the barrel, toast/char and reassemble. 2) Probably the better option, break the barrel down for refinishing and use as strips or dominos.
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+1 to what Expat said. Maybe fill the 5 gallon with your UJ, or a bold flavored rum, and long sleep, then a single malt Caribbean cask style.
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+1 to the +1Deplorable wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:29 am +1 to what Expat said. Maybe fill the 5 gallon with your UJ, or a bold flavored rum, and long sleep, then a single malt Caribbean cask style.
Rum followed by a single malt Caribbean cask style is a good call.
I picked up a bottle of Glenlivet Single Malt Caribbean Reserve today that was finished in Caribbean rum barrels. Set me back $86 bucks. But it is a gift for my son in law who did some work for me over the weekend. Looking forward to getting a taste ...
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