How to classify sugar wash spirits?

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Saltbush Bill » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:05 pm

I'm with Crow on this.....sugarshine is not rum...... find me a rum distillery anywhere in the world that makes rum from white or even raw sugar.
Both have had all of the goodies that make rum what it is taken out.

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by thecroweater » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:45 pm

Err , raw sugar has some, maybe most or the molasses removed but certainly not "all" . Refinery molasses is the molasses extracted from raw sugar, only when all the molasses and other impurities are removed do ya have refined sugar. There is even a raw sugar called Muscovado that has had nothing but water removed and is basically crystallized cane juice.
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by G8keeper » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:57 pm

thecroweater wrote:
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There is even a raw sugar called Muscovado
Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else or is off topic, but have you ever used this yourself thecroweater?

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by thecroweater » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:21 pm

Yes it came out a medium flavoured rum, slightly lighter than a molasses and raw sugar rum
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Saltbush Bill » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:47 pm

The amount of mollases left in raw sugar is so small it hardly makes a difference......you still won't find any commercial rum made from raw or white sugar.
For that matter id go as far as saying that 98% of all of the commercial rums are made of one thing.......mollases.

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by G8keeper » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:15 pm

thecroweater wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:21 pm
Yes it came out a medium flavoured rum, slightly lighter than a molasses and raw sugar rum

Cheers mate I might give it a run some time.

The last molasses wash I did I let sit for 18mths and when I tried it the taste was halfway between a rum & a whiskey... hence I called it Rumskey. Damn I wish I could find the recipe I wrote down for that :cry: I've moved house since then and can't find my old recipe book.
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by thecroweater » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:00 am

Rumskey is a thing sometimes called jackass juice. Its grain and molasses or rum aged on whiskey barrel oak, its not really my thing but it's not terrible.
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by G8keeper » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:42 pm

thecroweater wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:00 am
Rumskey is a thing sometimes called jackass juice.
Well I certainly fit that description :|
thecroweater wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:00 am
aged on whiskey barrel oak


Well that explains that in all too obvious way that it makes me feel like a jackass :lol:
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Avo » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:37 pm

G8keeper wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:57 pm
thecroweater wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:45 pm
There is even a raw sugar called Muscovado
Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else or is off topic, but have you ever used this yourself thecroweater?

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Off-topic answer to your question. I have used Dark muscovado sugar with golden syrup to make a white rum, the rich flavour and aroma of the muscovado sugar comes over very well. Furthermore, I have 'Soxhlet' infused dried mango into a flask of the rum, the flavours go very well together.
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by G8keeper » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:36 pm

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I have 'Soxhlet' infused dried mango into a flask of the rum, the flavours go very well together.
That sounds delish :thumbup:
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Avo » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:20 am

G8keeper wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:36 pm
Avo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:37 pm

I have 'Soxhlet' infused dried mango into a flask of the rum, the flavours go very well together.
That sounds delish :thumbup:
It is, just a question of maybe how much top-up plain neutral I can add in the bottle for the perfect balance.
The dark muscovado route is definately worth you trying; as it is said, if they just evaporate the water out of
it and it is crystalized cane juice it will retain the flavour, which I can verify. You could do a small 5 litre batch
ferment, and run it through your T500, still spirits say you could run 5 litres minimum distillate and stop producing
when you have collected 3 litres :think: I would definately label it rum.

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by RC Al » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:51 am

lols Avo, was going to ask why you had a "brain in a jar" in the middle of your still, then i realised it was mango... lols
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Avo » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:14 am

RC Al wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:51 am
"brain in a jar"
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by G8keeper » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:10 pm

Avo wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:20 am
You could do a small 5 litre batch ferment, and run it through your T500, still spirits say you could run 5 litres minimum distillate and stop producing when you have collected 3 litres :think: I would definately label it rum.

That's not such a bad idea :thumbup:
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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by Avo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:38 am

G8keeper wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:10 pm
Avo wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:20 am
You could do a small 5 litre batch ferment, and run it through your T500, still spirits say you could run 5 litres minimum distillate and stop producing when you have collected 3 litres :think: I would definately label it rum.

That's not such a bad idea :thumbup:
:thumbup: With Small or max' amounts in the T500 still, would be good to use a small voltage regulator. This one is very popular with T500 owners.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Voltage-Reg ... SwJcdcmZUI

p.s. I meant wash not distillate :lol:

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Re: How to classify sugar wash spirits?

Post by thecroweater » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:07 am

We are drifting off topic a bit here fellas
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