Large sugar mash
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Large sugar mash
I typically work with fruit and grain so sugar is brand new to me. My goal is to make a high abv wash to go in my column in order to pump out some high proof spirit to make sanitizer for the boys in the shop. I have never used nutrients and only have been using DADY for other batches. I do a 5 gallon starter of DADY and toss into my mash after crashing. Here's my plan, tell me how it will go wrong:
1. Mix 100 gallons of water with 200lbs of cane sugar
2. Do a 5 gallon starter of turbo yeast and toss into the sugar mash
I know it can't be this simple, what do I need to change.
1. Mix 100 gallons of water with 200lbs of cane sugar
2. Do a 5 gallon starter of turbo yeast and toss into the sugar mash
I know it can't be this simple, what do I need to change.
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Re: Large sugar mash
You’re “above my pay scale”...100 gallons is 8 times bigger than my ferments. But, you’re not planning on drinking any of this, right? Turbo yeast makes crappy tasting spirits.
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Re: Large sugar mash
For a sugar wash like that, add some nutrients. Here is my vodka, 110 gallons wash, 83 lbs barley and 120 lbs sugar. Could swap 40 lbs of sugar for the barley. .83 lbs of red star bread yeast, dry pitched at 90 deg. .25 lbs of distillavite GN at pitch, .1 lb 24 hrs later. 1.5 lbs calcium carbonate, .75 lbs citric acid, 15 ml fermcap at. Would ferment dry in 3 days.
Could sub startup or superfood instead of GN.
Could sub startup or superfood instead of GN.
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Re: Large sugar mash
thanks for the feedback. Definitely not going to be drinking this stuff. Just trying to get a high abv wash so that my yield of high ABV spirit is greater in order to produce sanitizer. Just trying to figure out the simplest and cheapest way to get it done (given that I have a 1,000 lbs of cane sugar on hand).
Re: Large sugar mash
So it seems like I should be adding some sort of nutrient to this for the yeast. I have some fermax on hand. Will this be sufficient and in what quantity?
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Re: Large sugar mash
https://www.meadmakr.com/batch-buildr/
That calculator calculates nutrient requirements based on yeast manufacturers recommendations for honey washes which should be very similar to a sugar wash.
I recently did 4 sugar washes at 1.075 with fermaid o, 4 grams per gallon, added over the first 3 days. Scaling up to 100 gallons, 400 grams, 133 each day for 3 days. Fermented out dry in less than a week.
750g of fermaid-o from morebeer is $60, so $30/batch for you (375g should be close enough).
That calculator calculates nutrient requirements based on yeast manufacturers recommendations for honey washes which should be very similar to a sugar wash.
I recently did 4 sugar washes at 1.075 with fermaid o, 4 grams per gallon, added over the first 3 days. Scaling up to 100 gallons, 400 grams, 133 each day for 3 days. Fermented out dry in less than a week.
750g of fermaid-o from morebeer is $60, so $30/batch for you (375g should be close enough).
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Re: Large sugar mash
Some quick googling makes me think that fermax is close enough to fermaid, so 4g/gallon of fermax should work fine.
Re: Large sugar mash
Thanks Everyone!
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Re: Large sugar mash
Distillavite is about 1g/gallon, so with fermaid, you could go for 2-3 x what I used. GN is a 30% dap nutrient.
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Re: Large sugar mash
What about saving and boiling used yeast trub after a ferment as nutrient?
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i prefer my mash shaken, not stirred
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i prefer my mash shaken, not stirred
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