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Sugar, and all about sugar washes. Where the primary ingredient is sugar, and other things are just used as nutrients.

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sweet spirit

Post by DonaldDrunk72 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:40 am

Hi, my latest batch of distillate, from a sugar wash, I did a strip run and then a spirit run, is basically bland and sweet, I mix mine with coke but its really too sweet to drink, I haven't seperated the cuts yet, I tried a taster from the middle of the run, nothing like a vodka, it looks ok, smells ok, but bland and I would say overly sweet, any ideas as to what I could maybe blend/infuse it with. Doesn't seem to be a section on this, but all major distillers do it, Ive tried oak but all this does is impart a woody taste (apart from colour)

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Post by NineInchNails » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:19 pm

I suspect that may just be the nature of straight table sugar washes. Next batch you make, try making Simple Syrup with your sugar then ferment that. 10# sugar, 5 cups water and 0.25 tsp Citric Acid. Boil for 20 min and you're done. I add the syrup to the fermenter while it's still hot. After adding water and other ingredients the temp is usually just right for yeast. That may make it a lot better. The first few runs I ever did was with simple syrup and it made the best vodka I've ever tasted. Smelled like water, no flavor and was as smooth as could be. I recently had a batch fermenting in my garage and temps were unstable. Warm in the day, but got chilly at night. That batch distilled with bite/sting on the tongue. I re-ran it and same thing. I suppose that's why people always say, "don't stress your yeast".

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Post by MartinCash » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:25 pm

I think bland is what you aim for if you use a sugar wash, isn't it?

Keep in mind that many non-top-shelf vodkas are not well cut and contain quite a lot of heads. In fact I find the heads cut for many of my spirit runs by looking for that cheap vodka flavour.

If you're aiming for that flavour profile, you may want to add small amounts of late heads to your final blend. Keep in mind that quality vodka should be neutral, though.

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Post by dukethebeagle120 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 pm

Sugar wash = bland
Dont expect flavor.
Sweetness yes,flavor no.
All my gin is made with wineo sugar wash.
Just the nature of a sugar wash
its better to think like a fool but keep your mouth shut,then to open ur mouth and have it confirmed

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Post by Tabucowboy » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:45 am

Look up what they add to Vodkas, It is not just Shine diluted. There is a lot on this site on what folks have added to sugar wash to make it more like vodka.

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Post by Saltbush Bill » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:07 am

Not sure why you would expect a sugar wash to be anyhing but bland.
Sweetness to me indicates heads.
If you want flavour from sugar best head down the ujsm path....or similar.

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Re: sweet spirit

Post by NineInchNails » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:42 am

I would try using different grains like wheat, UJSSM and different recipes to see which you personally prefer. I prefer my neutrals to have no heads and no tails. I don't like the bite of heads or the stank & flavor of tails at all. I make conservative cuts and toss the rest in my feints keg to run again later.

What's cool about using grains (and grain sugar head) is, like Brawndo, grains have everything yeast craves unlike sugar washes. Sugar washes require supplemental yeast nutrients to keep your yeast happy & healthy.

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Re: sweet spirit

Post by Durhommer » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 am

He said brawndo
You have two ears and one mouth for a reason....

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