Buying and Storing bulk sugar (NZ)
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Buying and Storing bulk sugar (NZ)
Any recommends on suppliers, and good ideas on storage, for bulk sugar?
I only ever buy/brew with "raw" sugar, and generally buy 10-20litres at a time from binn-inn.
But Looking to go bigger, probably a 44gal drum.
Any ideas? or better ways to store it?
I only ever buy/brew with "raw" sugar, and generally buy 10-20litres at a time from binn-inn.
But Looking to go bigger, probably a 44gal drum.
Any ideas? or better ways to store it?
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Raw sugar is crystals that haven't had every last skerrick of molasses removed from the surface. It's cheaper to buy white cane sugar and add a dollop of molasses.
I buy mine at Gilmours, paying a bit extra for caster sugar because I'm a lazy bugger and it dissolves easier. If you are going commercial, it's probably best to deal directly with the refinery.
I buy mine at Gilmours, paying a bit extra for caster sugar because I'm a lazy bugger and it dissolves easier. If you are going commercial, it's probably best to deal directly with the refinery.
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Well i just filled my 44gal with molasses so that should be no problem. I hadn't noticed (in the small quantities I buy) that raw was more expensive, infact thought it was cheaper being less processed but then of course I haven't looked at white sugar for years.
I think raw was seen as less desirable "dirty, unrefined" as well.
Not going commercial but nice to have bulk stock on hand. I do this with most things I can't make or grow (and yeah I am growing sugar but we're aways off any great quantity)
Will give gilmours a bell and see what they can do. Cheers.
I think raw was seen as less desirable "dirty, unrefined" as well.
Not going commercial but nice to have bulk stock on hand. I do this with most things I can't make or grow (and yeah I am growing sugar but we're aways off any great quantity)
Will give gilmours a bell and see what they can do. Cheers.
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I grow sugar cane too, but don't have an efficient way of extracting the juice.
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Haven't got that far yet. But I love the idea of ground-to-glass liqour. Will be certain acreage set aside for wheat and barley next season.
Boiling it seems to be the go... I might go for a lower Input method, chain flail and solar-still kind of setup.
I think there's a few different varieties too, some better for chewing, some for syrup and some for crystalline sugar, but beggared if I know what I've got.
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I store my sugar in 20liter pales with clip on lids .
We have massive ant problems so I dare leave a bag of sugar lying around .
I find it easy to pick up a pale of sugar and take it to where I need it . Trying to imagine shovelling sugar out of a 44 gal drum would be pretty messy .
LOL , the ants would have a field day on the accidental spillage
We have massive ant problems so I dare leave a bag of sugar lying around .
I find it easy to pick up a pale of sugar and take it to where I need it . Trying to imagine shovelling sugar out of a 44 gal drum would be pretty messy .
LOL , the ants would have a field day on the accidental spillage
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https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
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Good point...Yummyrum wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:23 pm I store my sugar in 20liter pales with clip on lids .
We have massive ant problems so I dare leave a bag of sugar lying around .
I find it easy to pick up a pale of sugar and take it to where I need it . Trying to imagine shovelling sugar out of a 44 gal drum would be pretty messy .
LOL , the ants would have a field day on the accidental spillage
Up till now I store it in 10litre wide-mouth ex-water bottles. Works well and keeps ants and rodents out, and yeah, easy to lug around.
Might have to find some 30-40litre sealed bins. Not too big not too small.
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A whole barrel of sugar to stockpile?? Wow.
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I'm in U.S. and buy 50# sacks of sugar from the local restaurant supply store (perks of living in an urban/suburban environment I guess). They carry white, brown (molasses re-added after processing in American jargon), and raw (unprocessed, remnant molasses still in there) for reasonable prices.
For storage, the local Tractor Supply (farm-type wholesale store) or even hardware store chains have 5 gal food grade buckets w/ lids. You'd need 2 to fit a 50# sack.
I also use rectangular plastic storage bins (30-40 gal) from hardware store with lids to discourage both 4 legged & 6 legged critters from getting into my grains/sugars. I work in my basement, so no problems so far (knock wood).
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For storage, the local Tractor Supply (farm-type wholesale store) or even hardware store chains have 5 gal food grade buckets w/ lids. You'd need 2 to fit a 50# sack.
I also use rectangular plastic storage bins (30-40 gal) from hardware store with lids to discourage both 4 legged & 6 legged critters from getting into my grains/sugars. I work in my basement, so no problems so far (knock wood).
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Weirdly, in NZ, most "RAW" sugar is in fact white processed sugar with the molasses added back on It gives the flavour, but isn't actually raw - lots of people buy it thinking it's healthier.
Are you a Whangarei boy too?
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Yeah booi.
I was of the understanding "raw" or "coffee crystals" was what it said on the tin, and it was the "soft brown" that was powdered white with molasses added back. Not that I ever checked the truth of it.
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You are correct
My recommended goto .
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.ph ... ion_Theory
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Considering it looks the same as what leaves the sugar mill, why would they go to the expense of all that processing when all they have to do is chuck it in a bag?
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Dunno, but Chelsea says: Raw sugar is granulated sugar that has a syrup coating on each crystals, giving it a beautiful golden colour and rich flavour. It’s made by dissolving, filtering and recrystallizing the raw sugar sent from sugar mills. Whatever that really means in marketing vs industry talk.
So they take raw sugar, and process it... to make raw sugar...
It doesn't have the goodies we find in our "nasty" Molasses You miss out on all that foaming and scum from the molasses
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That's not even grammatically correct. Who writes what they put on their website?
I'd like to see what they catch in the filter.
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I just got some more this week (139 kg)... I'd wondered about the price you mentioned... it's correct!
However, it was only $1/kg +tax previous to this visit Still a good price though!
I just got 2x 210L stainless drums too, so 139KG only does 2 batches now