Popcorn Sutton's Mash Recipe

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Corn Cracker wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:06 am
Saltbush Bill wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:43 pm Just a sugar head with a few fancy grains.
Sounds a lot better than straight sugar shine
If the target was a “moonshine likker” for bootlegging, then cheap, quick alcohol from a sugarhead would suffice. But, if your goal is a fine spirit for your own liquor cabinet, then there are many better recipes and opportunities available to the home distiller, since we don’t produce spirits for sale or barter.

I can’t imagine Pop Sutton’s recipe being much of a paradigm, unless simply for nostalgia’s sake.
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Corn Cracker wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:06 am
Saltbush Bill wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:43 pm Just a sugar head with a few fancy grains.
Sounds a lot better than straight sugar shine
Ketchup on a hamburger makes it better but it's still never going to be prime rib steak.

Reject the romantic notions, a sugar wash is never going to compete with all grain for taste.
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Expat wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:30 am
Corn Cracker wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:06 am
Saltbush Bill wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:43 pm Just a sugar head with a few fancy grains.
Sounds a lot better than straight sugar shine
Ketchup on a hamburger makes it better but it's still never going to be prime rib steak.

Reject the romantic notions, a sugar wash is never going to compete with all grain for taste.
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It is what it is, no doubt straight grain would be better, of course it would.
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I consumed as much as I could find about popcorn and nothing really impressed me about anything he did other than his effective branding skills, which is what I consider the most incredible thing about what he's done. There's no way he ever made anything close to what I can make with booners can I say that with 100% confidence. Don't really agree with his decision at the end either.

After a few years here doing booners casual, bourbons, brandies, enzyme sweet feed, rum, gin, and all feints vodka... I'll never go back to sugar head because they all have the same boring, muted, sweet bite and bland flavor that in my opinion is a waste of my effort to produce.
Good start for people to learn the process but I think not worth the money for sugar. I'd rather spend the effort to make a higher quality product
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sounds like a decent moonshine recipe to me?

the malted grains will help convert the corn starches and add a lot of flavor. We have a pile of "tried and true" recipes that don't go as far.
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squigglefunk wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:31 am sounds like a decent moonshine recipe to me?

the malted grains will help convert the corn starches and add a lot of flavor. We have a pile of "tried and true" recipes that don't go as far.
I find it amazing how necessary it is to spend the money on malted grains, save for corn. The earthy, gritty, funk of unmalted feed grain is undeniable when compared to malted grains
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RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm earthy, gritty, funk
i love everything about this
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squigglefunk wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:59 pm
RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm earthy, gritty, funk
i love everything about this
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Piggy back sugarheads, with a little added malts & otherwise unusable feints, can provide for a very satisfying drink, in short order.
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RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm
I find it amazing how necessary it is to spend the money on malted grains, save for corn. The earthy, gritty, funk of unmalted feed grain is undeniable when compared to malted grains
Sure, purchased malt is nice, but not totally necessary. Like 8Ball, I find it sexy to take a mixed bunch of humble raw grains, and after malting, roasting, distilling and aging, convert them into something special to drink. Especially using crappy city water.
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RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm
squigglefunk wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:31 am sounds like a decent moonshine recipe to me?

the malted grains will help convert the corn starches and add a lot of flavor. We have a pile of "tried and true" recipes that don't go as far.
I find it amazing how necessary it is to spend the money on malted grains, save for corn. The earthy, gritty, funk of unmalted feed grain is undeniable when compared to malted grains
My experience is most of this fades away with the addition of time on oak. The harsh, bright, green and gritty flavors become softer, other notes start to come up. Nothing like raw grain in a white spirit to make you question the path...
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Ben wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:53 am
RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm
squigglefunk wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:31 am sounds like a decent moonshine recipe to me?

the malted grains will help convert the corn starches and add a lot of flavor. We have a pile of "tried and true" recipes that don't go as far.
I find it amazing how necessary it is to spend the money on malted grains, save for corn. The earthy, gritty, funk of unmalted feed grain is undeniable when compared to malted grains
My experience is most of this fades away with the addition of time on oak. The harsh, bright, green and gritty flavors become softer, other notes start to come up. Nothing like raw grain in a white spirit to make you question the path...
I'm getting a much heavier raw grain, earthen profile. None of the bright green apple because I'm going that far into heads.
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RockinRockies wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:33 am
Ben wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:53 am
RockinRockies wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:46 pm
squigglefunk wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:31 am sounds like a decent moonshine recipe to me?

the malted grains will help convert the corn starches and add a lot of flavor. We have a pile of "tried and true" recipes that don't go as far.
I find it amazing how necessary it is to spend the money on malted grains, save for corn. The earthy, gritty, funk of unmalted feed grain is undeniable when compared to malted grains
My experience is most of this fades away with the addition of time on oak. The harsh, bright, green and gritty flavors become softer, other notes start to come up. Nothing like raw grain in a white spirit to make you question the path...
I'm getting a much heavier raw grain, earthen profile. None of the bright green apple because I'm going that far into heads.
I didn't write that very well. I don't mean green apples, I mean green as in new, unseasoned, intense. It is also green like fresh mown hay, or grass clippings.
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Oh, indeed. Absolutely. THE HAY! yes. Fresh cut, wet hay and heavy raw grain, gritty, almost dirt flavor profile around the edges.

I get what you are putting down but we're off topic of popcorn and I don't want to derail this thread.

To popcorn recipe, effectively UJSCM, no sour...
Has anyone else found anything in the flavor profile outside hot buttered popcorn? It's very one dimensional. Quite delicious, but even my booners is straight popcorn. The sugarhead seems to mute that rich, buttery flavor profile
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