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Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby MichiganCornhusker » Tue May 16, 2017 6:42 am

And they took his corn. Bastards.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Danespirit » Tue May 16, 2017 7:02 am

To make matters worse, it seems like the guy ran a flute and not just a simple pot still... :cry:
Just shows one can never be too careful..
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby skow69 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:17 am

What is this? Bait and switch? propaganda? hyperbole?

They show a picture of a drop-dead gorgeous, 6 plate, stainless flute, all decked out with about a dozen tri clamps and a parrot standing on a high end custom boiler, and the caption says "A sample of the still agents said they confiscated." The one they actually stole from the poor bastard is more likely one of those Chinese units with a tiny worm mounted on top of the 4 liter stock pot boiler. But that wouldn't inflame public opinion against the heinous criminal distiller like this expensive, high tech lookin', pile of bling. This suggests that he must be making good money at his moonshining to afford gear like that.

Don't they have any real crime to deal with in Delaware? They gotta harass our brother for trying to improve his quality of life in some small way? How many cops they got reading online auctions looking for used illegal hardware? How much used illegal hardware can there be? If they found somebody selling Abrams tanks or plutonium by the pound, I would think that was a legitimate use of law enforcement resources, but this is bullshit. Get some perspective, Delaware.

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby skow69 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:20 am

Sorry for the rant. I shouldn't read this kind of shit before coffee in the morning.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Snackson » Tue May 16, 2017 7:27 am

That was his actual still from Mile Hi. He's a member on here, or was. Last logged in back in Feb.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Jimbo » Tue May 16, 2017 12:13 pm

They sell stills at the local homebrew shop, there's 3 of them in the front window right now. How is this illegal.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby dieselduo » Tue May 16, 2017 1:14 pm

Jimbo wrote:They sell stills at the local homebrew shop, there's 3 of them in the front window right now. How is this illegal.

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe you have to have a license to sell stills idk
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby nerdybrewer » Tue May 16, 2017 1:36 pm

Each state has their own set of laws, what is perfectly legal (selling distillation equipment) in one state may be illegal in another.
This is without even getting into the Federal laws.
It's perfectly legal to buy, sell and own equipment according to my state law.
It's a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $250 here to use it without a license.
It's still Federally illegal to use it but not to own or buy / sell it.
The article makes me think it's illegal to possess the equipment there according to that state's laws.

There's a state by state list of this kind of thing over on the HDA website IIRC...
Yeah, it's here:
https://www.hobbydistillersassociation. ... s-by-state

Edit:
Just read my state's stand and it's a lot worse than what I remembered:

Every person who shall sell or offer for sale, or transport in any manner, any spirituous liquor, without government stamp or seal attached thereto, or who shall operate without a license, any still or other device for the production of spirituous liquor, or shall have in his or her possession or under his or her control any mash capable of being distilled into spirituous liquor except as provided in RCW 66.12.130, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof shall upon his or her first conviction be fined not less than five hundred dollars and confined in the county jail not less than six months, and upon second and subsequent conviction shall be fined not less than one thousand dollars and confined in the county jail not less than one year.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby HDNB » Tue May 16, 2017 2:16 pm

:lol: :lol: Tell us how you really feel Skow!

meanwhile in Canada, possessing a still without licensing is 500,000 and 5 years on the Excise tax act.

I have on good authority a fellow in my home city has in his possession a letter from Excise Canada saying that he is allowed to import and sell home distilling equipment.... :wtf: so the law applies equally to different people here...or differently to equal people.

i'm with you all the way Skow. I can't believe the Delaware cops have nothing better to do. I'm guessing we are missing the part where he was selling perhaps?

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Plc Ryan » Tue May 16, 2017 5:51 pm

Unless you are really up to snuff with your particular regions laws and know for 100% it's legal why would you post this on the internet? I was searching around on kijiji earlier (Canada's Craigs list) and found a still for sale just searching for copper pipe. I think some people just want to get caught.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Truckinbutch » Tue May 16, 2017 6:20 pm

Plc Ryan wrote:Unless you are really up to snuff with your particular regions laws and know for 100% it's legal why would you post this on the internet? I was searching around on kijiji earlier (Canada's Craigs list) and found a still for sale just searching for copper pipe. I think some people just want to get caught.

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Plc Ryan » Tue May 16, 2017 6:28 pm

Truckinbutch wrote:
Plc Ryan wrote:Unless you are really up to snuff with your particular regions laws and know for 100% it's legal why would you post this on the internet? I was searching around on kijiji earlier (Canada's Craigs list) and found a still for sale just searching for copper pipe. I think some people just want to get caught.

There's some things ought to be done after dark and damned little said about them .


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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby WIski » Wed May 17, 2017 4:54 am

I don't think the ATF actually search's Craig's list for this type of stuff but I do absolutely believe there are a whole bunch of "Holier than thou" ass wipes that cant keep their noses on their own faces that will call in to the authorities on stuff like this. Once the call is made the Public Officials are obligated to act. I'm in total agreement with TB and Ryan. As much as we think this is practice is out of the closet and accepted practice, "IT"S NOT". This is illegal on the Federal and State level. I feel for the guy and surely hope he wasn't selling product. There was no mention of that.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby shadylane » Wed May 17, 2017 5:13 am

I wonder if the confiscated still will be sold by the police :?:
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby thecroweater » Wed May 17, 2017 6:05 am

Pays to look into ya local laws before putting something up for public sale. Oz for instance has very little in the way of state laws regarding this but federally it does. What I can tell here you could sell that still but not on that kettle, guess you could sell it with a "mash tun" boiler. I don't know about every state here as I've only needed to look into two but it makes sense to see where you stand before exposing yourself like this guy did especially if a free fuel licence he could cancel after the sale would have got him off the hook. All that said good Lord surely they can find better things to do than busting someone for selling a still without a licence, sheez .
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Pikey » Wed May 17, 2017 7:29 am

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby NeillNI » Wed May 17, 2017 11:21 am

Easier to just think of it as illegal, and stick with that, regardless of the morality of the actual law.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby aircarbonarc » Wed May 17, 2017 3:37 pm

Aren't there inner cities overrun with drugs and poverty? Hope the charges are dropped or he gets a small slap on the wrist, just.hooe the judge throws it out because that's a waste of resources.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Pikey » Wed May 17, 2017 3:52 pm

NeillNI wrote:Easier to just think of it as illegal, and stick with that, regardless of the morality of the actual law.


Slavery was legal - until a few years ago.

Homosexuality was a prisonable offence (Oscar Wilde did years in Reading Jail)

Moral Laws ?

- WIthout protest on moral grounds - we have no sense of right and wrong. We are just serfs - at the whim of the hierachy.

Read 1984.

- I'm missing something clearly, but if you really believe that - what are you doing here ? :?
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Kareltje » Wed May 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Laws are the reflection of how we want to treat each other.
In democracies they are made by the government and sanctioned by the parliaments.
So ideally the law is your own opinion of what is right or wrong.

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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby yakattack » Wed May 17, 2017 4:57 pm

Kareltje wrote:Laws are the reflection of how we want to treat each other.
In democracies they are made by the government and sanctioned by the parliaments.
So ideally the law is your own opinion of what is right or wrong.

Give or take an inch.



Give ot take an inch? You show me a truly democratic nation and I will eat my hat.

It doesn't exist. Government supports big business over its citizens 9 times out of ten. How is that democratic?
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Wed May 17, 2017 4:59 pm

Read "Animal farm" Some animals are more equal than others.
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The huntsman he can't hunt the fox, nor so loudly to blow his horn
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby goose eye » Wed May 17, 2017 5:10 pm

Ain't no dam game.
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Truckinbutch » Wed May 17, 2017 6:01 pm

goose eye wrote:Ain't no dam game.
Loose lips sink ships

So I'm tole

Those that fail to heed this warning tend to suffer consequences . This is still an illegal hobby even if the political climate has become more mellow . March too close to the band wagon and you can still get hit with a horn .
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Plc Ryan » Wed May 17, 2017 6:22 pm

goose eye wrote:Ain't no dam game.
Loose lips sink ships

So I'm tole


This might be my favourite goose eye quote to date, and honestly, couldn't sum it up better. I agree with what everyone is saying just treat it as illegal because in 9/10 places it is and laws are always murky. Loose lips...
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Re: Arrest in Delaware USA for sale of hobby scale still

Postby Bvritr » Wed May 17, 2017 10:03 pm

WIski wrote:I don't think the ATF actually search's Craig's list for this type of stuff but I do absolutely believe there are a whole bunch of "Holier than thou" ass wipes that cant keep their noses on their own faces that will call in to the authorities on stuff like this. Once the call is made the Public Officials are obligated to act. I'm in total agreement with TB and Ryan. As much as we think this is practice is out of the closet and accepted practice, "IT"S NOT". This is illegal on the Federal and State level. I feel for the guy and surely hope he wasn't selling product. There was no mention of that.


Cant speak for the ATF but any good property crimes detective will spend a bit of time each day on Craigslist and local Facebook selling sites. Ive seen photos taken of stolen property inside of the thiefs car and thiefs taking orders for items online.
I do hope this guy gets off with a slap on the wrist and a lesson learned.
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