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Lots of alcoholics on both sides of my family, there was never a single drop of beer or wine at any family gatherings my whole life. My dad basically disappeared when I was 12 — fell into the bottle and didn’t turn up for 20 years.

I had issues with it when I got to college, mainly because I had never been introduced to it or taught anything about it.

I won’t be making that same mistake with my kids.

Drug and alcohol abuse is prevalent in my family on moms side, I have addictive tendencies for sure. Been through a bout of drug addiction but I've never gotten real deep into booze. I like to get into my cups now and then with my best buddy but usually I just have a nightcap to mellow my busy mind before bed. Shit, sometimes I'll pour up a glass of spirit or do a g&t and only get halfway through it before I doze off. I drink nightly but I don't get hammered, just a little buzz preferably on my own product naturally.

Grew up in an abusive household, and all of us 5 boys dealt with it through alcohol (and other things). Today, 4 of us are moderate drinkers of varying levels, youngest brother is a tried and true (15 years now) AA non-drinker. I have been blessed/lucky in keeping my addictive tendencies largely in check.

Of note: My 2 older kids graduated as athletes from prominent D1 schools, and despite every opportunity to join their thirstier teammates, are far too busy with life to let alcohol be more than an occasional great time. Third kid doesn't drink.

Whew!

Sheeeet, when I was still under 12, my favorite Saturday morning breakfast (before cartoons came on) was , cold pizza and room temp beer and wine left over from my folks Friday night mixed couples poker games. I taught myself !!! LOL

Im work 12 hour shifts. Dayshift and Nightshift. 4-5 oz of 80 proof before bed at 06:00 AM is the perfect night (day) cap to keep me asleep while everyone else is awake.

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Well I drink every day and not ashamed to admit it. The first step is admitting it right? Im just pissed it's been so damn cold I can't get any stilling done out in the barn.

does drinking 1 liter of vodka per week mean im alcoholic???

cdd wrote:does drinking 1 liter of vodka per week mean im alcoholic???

400 ml/7 days = 57 ml alcohol/day.
Only half an alcoholic.

That’s just over 3 shots per day. Above the recommended 2 per day health wise. But wiki alcoholism to get a better definition as it is more it’s effects on you and those around you rather than just quantities. And FYI I am probably between 2-3 per day. There is some “evidence” that some drinking is actually life extending. 60 Minutes did a segment called “living to 90 and beyond”.


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Being an alcoholic will end ya days nothing surer but temperance won't save it. My maternal Great Grandfather didn't smoke and rarely drank I'm told and lived to the ripe old age of 59, his daddy smoked a pipe and loved a drink. At 96 he was killed by a stripper (wheat stripper that is), Grandma didn't mind a drink and she passed away last year aged 100
Dads Dad told me years ago "If you don't smoke, don't drink and don't chase a fast woman ya won't live longer but it sure as hell will feel like it". I think its all about moderation and the tricky bit is that is different for each person.

cdd wrote:does drinking 1 liter of vodka per week mean im alcoholic???

When I was a youth - 7-8 pints (beer) a night 7 days a week with perhaps double at the weekends was pretty normal.

Now the "social pressure groups" and "Health freaks" have got involved, if you smoke, eat meat, live with an actual FEMALE woman, or run a car - you're some sort of antisocial monster. They've closed the pubs and shut down face to face communication, put up Spy cameras on every street corner, check up on your phone calls and texts, intercept your e-mails and monitor what websites you visit - Hell - It's enough to drive a lad to drink - but apparently more than a teaspoon full a year and you're an alcoholic !

You gotta give up a perfectly healthy diet and fill yourself up on carbs and high fructose corn syrup and you're wonderful !

THEY'RE GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM REALITY.

If you like a drink - have one ! If not - what the hell you doin' here ?

Pikey wrote:If you like a drink - have one ! If not - what the hell you doin' here ?

Knockin' one down in your honor, Pikey!

fizzix wrote:

Pikey wrote:If you like a drink - have one ! If not - what the hell you doin' here ?

Knockin' one down in your honor, Pikey!

I've just poured another and came back to find your post - Whisky with a splash of coke and lemonade here fizzix - cheers mate

If you have to drink to keep from feeling bad, then you're an alcoholic.

Best definition I've ever came across.

thecroweater wrote: Dads Dad told me years ago "If you don't smoke, don't drink and don't chase a fast woman ya won't live longer but it sure as hell will feel like it"..

Being a programmer, I have a line of code that describes my philosophy "Quality of life = (Time on earth * fun );"

Don't know if this is the right place to post this new found joke.

An Irishman walks into a bar in Dublin, orders three pints of Guinness and sits in the back of the room, drinking a sip out of each one in turn. When he finished all three, he comes back to the bar and orders three more.

The bartender says to him, ‘You know, a pint goes flat after I draw it; it would taste better if you bought one at a time.’ The Irishman replies, ‘Well, you see, I have two brothers. One is in America, the other in Australia, and I’m here in Dublin. When we all left home, we promised that we’d drink this way to remember the days we all drank together.

‘The bartender admits that this is a nice custom, and leaves it there. The Irishman becomes a regular in the bar and always drinks the same way: he orders three pints and drinks the three pints by taking drinks from each of them in turn.

One day, he comes in and orders two pints. All the other regulars in the bar notice and fall silent. When he comes back to the bar for the second round, the bartender says, ‘I don’t want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your great loss.’

The Irishman looks confused for a moment, then a lights dawns in his eye and he laughs. ‘Oh, no, ‘ he says, ‘Everyone is fine. I’ve just quit drinking!

thecroweater wrote:I think its all about moderation and the tricky bit is that is different for each person.

You have it right
My grand parents were all smoking lightly and drinking a few shots of wine everyday but they were eating way less sugar than the generations today, and they passed away peacefully at well over 90 !
I quit smoking a few years back and I do not feel better.
I guess stress is going to kill me not cigs !

I think that habitual drunkenness isn't always a bad thing, or at least, it doesn't have to be. My work ethic dictates me not to drink on the job; among other things, I want to give my best to, not my employer, not my job, but to myself. I think self destructive tendencies are what makes habitual drinking a problem...

Alcohol dependence, iv'e never experienced a physical need to drink, or even seen it; nor am I sure of it's method of action in the body. I don't know, I have not done the research. In everyone I have ever seen with an alcohol problem It's been a self destructive mentality that led them to the place that they are. And, fortunately, positive thinking was enough of a shock to the system that they could pull themselves out of it.

I think all that really needs to be said here is that if you don't hurt others, carry on. being a broad statement, that is sometimes hard to get ones head around just how deeply penetrating it is. You've got to really sit down and do some serious introspection to figure it out IMO.

Everyone is in a different spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical place.

I go in and out of periods. Lately I've finished a fifth of bourbon every 4 days, and that's not counting the vodka cocktails, martinis and gin drinks in between...
But then there's been months without a drop before that. I'm very random with it. It's all in good spirits though!

I'll drink to that!!!

Don't know if I am or not... but I'm going to try my best this weekend!

Personally it's something I am on guard about.
Too much of it in my family to not be concerned.
If I can't go a week dry without craving then I think I have a problem, so once in a while I spend a dry week just to be sure.

I thought I had a problem with drink, then I realised the only problem was I was not making enough of it.

Swedish Pride wrote:I thought I had a problem with drink, then I realised the only problem was I was not making enough of it.

I plead the fifth

Fiddleford wrote:I plead the fifth

I'm pretty sure as long as you are not pleading 2 fifths, you're fine.

I've not had a drink since my last one.

Well then we need to pour a couple and catch up

Cheers!
-jonny