Don't Shoot at your neighbors

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Don't Shoot at your neighbors

Post by tiramisu » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:49 pm

Eatonton man arrested on assault, moonshine liquor charges

Such a lovely still to end up being confiscated.
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https://www.unionrecorder.com/news/eato ... fbab4.html

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Re: Don't Shoot at your neighbors

Post by Durhommer » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:27 pm

So many barrels man that sucks
You have two ears and one mouth for a reason....

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Post by EM Jellinek » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:48 pm

Lol. Quite the outlaw. This story is sad on so many levels.
My interest in distilling is purely academic.

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Post by shadylane » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:52 pm

“On one of the steps of the shed, I found a marijuana joint, which led to me look inside the shed,” Cardwell said. “It was a rolled-up joint.”

Did he ask the trespassers if one of them dropped the joint when the old man supposedly fired a BB gun?
Don't get me wrong, the old man fucked up. Not only did he commit a crime.
He also committed bad judgement giving consent to a search.

On a side note
If he offered, I'd drink some of his personal homedistilled liquor.
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Post by jonnys_spirit » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:02 pm

That's a lot of barrels for that small alembic - He's been working hard for 70!

Don't let em in without a warrant and have your bugout plan in place before they arrive... You just might get a heads up..

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Post by SpeakEasy » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:13 pm

I wonder he's a member here...
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Post by Toxxyc » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:08 am

He willingly let them in. Makes me think that perhaps he didn't know he was doing wrong in distilling his own stuff.

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Post by shadylane » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:00 am

Toxxyc wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:08 am
He willingly let them in. Makes me think that perhaps he didn't know he was doing wrong in distilling his own stuff.

I hope the Old Man gets off on a technicality.
And gets his still back.
The prosecuting attorney damn sure wouldn't want me on the jury. :moresarcasm:

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Re: Don't Shoot at your neighbors

Post by tiramisu » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:20 am

No chance he is getting the still back.
The weapons complaint made it a sure thing they would get a search warrant if he didn't volunteer access.
Kids dropped their joint while they were trying to steal the old man's whiskey.

This is probably the biggest problem of home distilling.
If others know then bad things can happen.

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Post by Desvio » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:40 pm

tiramisu wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:20 am
Kids dropped their joint while they were trying to steal the old man's whiskey.
:lol:



The most important lesson here is DON'T do shit that draws attention to yourself.
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Post by Birrofilo » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:41 pm

tiramisu wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:20 am
The weapons complaint made it a sure thing they would get a search warrant if he didn't volunteer access.
I think the rational behaviour would have been to deny access, to hide the still somewhere else (a friend, some remote place in the countryside etc.) before the Police came back with a search warrant. Unless the Police can obtain the search warrant in a few hours and they can stay in the place for the entire wait.

The quantity that I see suggests that this man had a trade.

Do you have some link to some news?

EDIT: I saw only now there is a link to the news under the picture. Doesn't work in Europe.

Old world members can read something here: https://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/ ... 18885.html

This news seem to confirm the general idea that the Police will not come to your house with a search warrant looking for your still. any time I read of somebody being arrested for illegal distilling in the US, it turns out there was a bigger problem behind.

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Post by tiramisu » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm

When getting a search warrant the police will generally post an officer to we watch. With a weapon complaint they may not require a warrant. In Canada you give up the right to deny search when you register a weapon.

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Post by Birrofilo » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:17 pm

Curiously, in Italy in such a case the man could not have been convicted for illegal distilling.

The search mandate must specify the precise object, objects etc. that are looked for. If let's say the judge is looking for drugs, and they find a still, they cannot denunciate the person for illegal still possession because that is outside the search scope. I think firearms and explosives are exceptions to this rule, and maybe certain drugs, but certainly not stills or moonshine or other illegal material such as paedopornography, pirated content, clandestine gambling house, unlicensed radioham apparati, illegal stuffed animals etc.

A "no fishing expedition" rule applies.

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Post by Deplorable » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:42 pm

Birrofilo wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:17 pm
Curiously, in Italy in such a case the man could not have been convicted for illegal distilling.

The search mandate must specify the precise object, objects etc. that are looked for. If let's say the judge is looking for drugs, and they find a still, they cannot denunciate the person for illegal still possession because that is outside the search scope. I think firearms and explosives are exceptions to this rule, and maybe certain drugs, but certainly not stills or moonshine or other illegal material such as paedopornography, pirated content, clandestine gambling house, unlicensed radioham apparati, illegal stuffed animals etc.

A "no fishing expedition" rule applies.
American law affords the same protections. The warrant must specify what is to be searched for and where on the premises the search is confined. However, that doesn't stop them from finding something illicit, and going back to the judge, because now they have Probable Cause.
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