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New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:43 pm

Well all the supplies are ordered and should be here by the end of the year. I've got a 1/4 barrel keg to use as the boiler and it will be a 2" column.
Connections will be S.S. ferrules to keg and product condenser. I got a SS ferrule cap to go on top of the "T" to run in pot still mode. Gonna recycle my current 24" liebig for the PC. I have some 1/4 soft copper to use as a RC. I'm thinking 1/4 copper coil over 1/2 cold finger.. just because it's what I already have.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:01 pm

Got a RC coil wound up :thumbup: I didn't do the cold finger, seemed easier to just do it this way.
The outer coil is more to hold it in place when I move it than for actual cooling.
I just did a flow test with my little pond pump and it flows pretty good. It wasn't flowing through my liebig but I had it flowing through a mile of hose.Seems the only problem I may have is my little pump was only good for about a 3 foot vertical rise.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by still_stirrin » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:19 pm

Suggestion....raise your cooling water reservoir up...to where your reflux condenser is. It will reduce the discharge head, making the water flow better. Gravity, for water flow out of your reflux condenser, aid in the return to the reservoir. Just an idea to help.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by S-Cackalacky » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:20 pm

Sounds like a good build plan. I hope to do a CCVM when I get some parts together. Let us know how it runs and some more pics would be nice too. Good job on the coil btw.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:31 pm

S.S. That's the plan for the pump. I just was curious where the cutoff was for the vertical rise.
BTW has anyone else noticed that the corrugated gas line is all coated. Where is everyone getting the uncoated? I saw a few but not many?
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Post by S-Cackalacky » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:56 pm

The gas line coating can be easily peeled off. It's kind of like the outer insulation on an electrical cable.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:39 pm

Good news I have most of the stuff here I need to do my build :thumbup:
Bad news I screwed up my coil trying to make it fit through the ID of the ferrule DAMN!!!!
The only corrugated line around here local is all painted yellow. The stuff that can be peeled off comes in like 75 foot lengths. I don't need that much. Maybe I can just strip it off or wire wheel it.
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Post by DAD300 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:36 pm

I used a propane torch to burn some off, then acetone and wash.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by thatguy1313 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:55 pm

Propane and fores takes that stuff right off.
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Post by CR33G3R » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:10 pm

That's a fine idea. I think i'm gonna go light a fire :thumbup:
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:12 pm

Well this little coil thing is kicking my butt :x
The flex line I bought does not fit in the column, no big deal I will take it back and make up a simple jig and wind another 1/4 coil.
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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by thatguy1313 » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:43 pm

Smaller diameter line? 1/4" single coil should fit fine. That's what I've git in mine with a copper scrubbie stuffed in it. No problem knocking down 100% of the vapors.
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Post by Hound Dog » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:20 am

You can buy smaller diameter SS line at https://www.plumbingsupply.com/gasconnectors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow . These are gas appliance connectors. You can also think a little outside the box. It does not have to be a coil at all. Just loop the line in half and twist it. A tighter twist will give a little more diameter, longer less. You will be surprised that all the cooling takes place in the first few inches of the coil. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around how a little reflux coil knocks down all the vapor that my big worm barrel does.

By the way, the non painted type of gas line is Gastite brand. This brand has the loose rubber sleeve that just splits and comes off with no adhesive. I think the GE universal gas connectors in the appliance section are bare also. This is the brand sold at Home Depot in my parts but that varies.
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Post by DAD300 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:44 am

Dormont makes both bare and coated...or http://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?qu ... ping&i=SST" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

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Re: New CCVM build underway

Post by CR33G3R » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:55 am

Had another go at winding a coil. I think I have one that will work :thumbup: I did space the bottom few coils out a little further since it is a little difficult to make a tail the way that Dad suggest when using a moving RC. The thought is that this will make it a little easier to control the reflux rate. As is running from the lowest setting on my little pond pump through 20 feet of 1/4 ID hose and 20 feet of 3/8 ID hose it flows about 1 liter every 2 min.
Hopefully tomorrow I will get some time to cut some copper and get everything dry fit.
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Post by rad14701 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:26 pm

WTF did you do to that poor piece of copper...??? :think:

A flow rate of 1/2 liter per minute due to the flattening may not be enough to maintain proper reflux and knock down power... We generally suggest 1 - 2 liters per minute flow rate... You might get lucky but don't be surprised if that attempt falls short...

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Post by Hound Dog » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:02 pm

rad14701 wrote:WTF did you do to that poor piece of copper...??? :think:
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That was the best post of the day! OP, I think he is trying to say you need to avoid flattening it so much as you are restricting the water flow too much. Either fill a new piece solid with salt and struggle to get it back out or go back to the stainless. Believe me the stainless works. Plus a 50' section is probably about as much as you are going to spend in copper anyway. So you will have extra for your next build.
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Post by thatguy1313 » Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:23 pm

Just checked what I got for mine. 3/8" od corrugated gas line. Single coil. Fits in nice and snug.
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Post by CR33G3R » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:42 pm

Well upon further review you guys are right that is not very good flow at all.Thanks for the link to the plumbing supply they have something that will work much better. For what it is worth I only payed $4 for that piece of copper. At least I can continue on from here although I am still waiting on the rest of my ferrules. I would have never thought this would be this big of a PITA
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Post by CR33G3R » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:21 pm

I finally got my ss coil in. That thing was the ticket :thumbup:
I haven't had time to do much work on it lately...but hopefully i'll post some pics with everything dry fit by the end of the week.
Hey Rad this one flows.. thanks for the advice :egeek:
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Post by thatguy1313 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:29 pm

Your milage may vary but I found I get better results with a longer "tail" on my condenser. I also made it so that it angles towards the wall opposite the takeoff. Made controlling reflux a little easier. Only 4 coils on mine. Don't have any problem achieving 100% reflux.
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Post by CR33G3R » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:51 pm

Got a little time to do some work today. The take off is soldered from the from the sanitary fitting out, still need to solder the union for the liebig on the end(maybe later)
Everything else is just sitting there waiting to be soldered.
I know you guys like pics so here are a couple The triclamp on top is for pot mode
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Post by thatguy1313 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:06 pm

Looks good!
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Post by S-Cackalacky » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:41 pm

Couldn't find any mention of this, but what will you be using for packing?

What you have going so far looks like it will be a nice still. Hope you'll be posting pics of the finished version. Looks like you're getting real close to running.
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Post by CR33G3R » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:39 pm

Well I got everything soldered up today and cleaned up a little :D
Not sure when I will get to do my cleaning runs... :(
SC as far as packing I am either going to do SS scrubbies or lava rock. I figure I will need at least a couple of scrubbies to hold the lava rock so I think I am gonna start there. I will say after reading the entire lets talk packing thread I will try the lava rock at some point
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Post by CR33G3R » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:46 pm

I've got a few more
Any comments or feedback is welcome although it is a little late for feedback since it is finished :clap:
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