Putting two kegs together

RunRufusRun · Post by **RunRufusRun** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:04 am

Wait, your book tells you that you have balance control on dc settings?

Post by **goinbroke2** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:42 am

Yeah, if I run into work I'll confirm, but yes. We have two pages that are in a plastic sheath on top of the machine, one is for aluminum( put this here, this here, set that there, etc) and a second sheet for SS( switch to this, change that, etc)

I just followed what the Miller book/sheet said, never questioned it. It says 3 on balance for SS and 6 for alum...or I'm completely out to lunch and you set it to 3 for alum and don't worry (change) for SS? I don't know but I'll check next time I'm in the shop.(on vacation right now, not that I don't have my own keys, I'm just not there this week)

RunRufusRun · Post by **RunRufusRun** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:51 am

I’ve never heard of having balance control when welding dc. Only thing I can think is if your setting up for pulse and that’s your pulse rate. Can you remember what model that Miller is?

Post by **corene1** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:27 pm

I have never seen a balance control for DCEN either. That is where curiosity will get me every time. I would be trying at different settings just to see the change in the weld. It is very obvious when you change the balance on AC aluminum though. Of course my welder is about 10 years old so it may not be up to date on extras. It is a Lincoln Precision Tig 375

Post by **corene1** » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:32 pm

Here is my little corner of the shop.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:21 am

Aw, geeze youz guys...now I gotta go to work and see...the curiosity is bugging me.

I'll run in later today.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:11 am

Time for some pictures....

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:18 am

Pics of the charts for SS and Alum;

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:35 am

Oh, and for Corene..pics of my welding shop

apparently taken with a potato...

Post by **corene1** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 am

HAHAHA! Your shop is sure a lot cleaner than mine. Heck the floor is even smooth and clean. My floor looks like a mine zone . I see in your notes you use pure tungsten for aluminum ( (green paint) It has been a long while since I have used that . At work we try to keep it more universal, a tungsten that will work for all materials, but then again we are a job shop not a production shop. We do a lot of one off stuff and misc repairs. Mostly in the oilfield or food service areas but some farm work as well as the cement plants around here. Occasionally a hot rod or two. I will be building steam valves for one company and inconel burners for a potato chip factory for the next several of weeks.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:51 pm

Lol, it better be clean, can't stand tripping over stuff and looking for tools/ppe that wasn't put away.
(Great thing about being the boss, my pet peeves are law, lol)

We use the green tip because that's what the book says. If we had an actual welder, they would probably get something different.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:21 pm

Been practising, here's the US flag, what do you think?

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:22 pm

Lol, I wish.....

RunRufusRun · Post by **RunRufusRun** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:04 am

The balance/dig control works for those two separate functions. When you switch to AC it controls your balance, switch to DC it controls your dig. Dig is called arc force by Lincoln which I think is a better description. So gtaw and smaw your power source is constant current, meaning you set the amperage and that’s where it stays, where as your voltage varies depending on your arc length. Longer arc, higher voltage/shorter arc, lower voltage. Usually the dig feature is used when smaw with a deep penetrating rod so you can really shorten your arc in a root pass to get full penetration without your voltage dropping to much and snuffing out your arc. Basically set it high to have a more aggressive, digging arc. Set low to have a softer, shallower penetrating

There is no situation that I can think of where you would need to have dig control on an AC setting, or if it would even work. So designers at Miller used the knob to control one or the other depending on what you have the machine set to.

Now with gtaw this isn’t going to matter as much in most instances. It might help if you set the dig high if you are welding at real low amperage to keep the arc lit. My guess would be they just suggest 3 as a middle of the road setting while gtaw.

Sorry if any of that is hard to follow. I’m a weld engineer not a teacher.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:22 pm

So more bubble, less gum, got it! Lol!

Just ran 11gallons of sugar wash neutral and am now deep into it!!!

Better go, people showed up.

Sunshineer · Post by **Sunshineer** » Fri May 24, 2019 4:23 pm

Going to try this putting three together but the welding is out of my league I will cut all the pieces and drill all the holes and hopefully I won't get raped having it welded plan on using two 5500 watt double curve elements and building my own pid controller on top will be 3 or 4 inch column this should increase my output so I only have to run a couple of times a year.

Sunshineer · Post by **Sunshineer** » Fri May 24, 2019 4:25 pm

goinbroke2 wrote:Been practising, here's the US flag, what do you think?

LONG MAY SHE WAVE GOD BLESS AMERICA

Post by **goinbroke2** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:14 pm

Sunshineer wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 4:25 pm
goinbroke2 wrote:Been practising, here's the US flag, what do you think?
LONG MAY SHE WAVE GOD BLESS AMERICA

As a Canadian, I agree, long may she wave!

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:54 am

I think I would have just used the second keg like a thumper and filled them both with wash.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:37 am

So, just to follow up...
I'm running the 114l still now, only have one 4500 element in it.(haven't got around to adding a second)

Started stripping at 9:30am, finished the spirit run at 5:30pm. Ended with just shy of 5gal of sugar wash at 74%. Not a bad days work.
My plan is to run once a year and make enough for all year. So ferment in 121l can and run it off in a single day, do that 3 times and I have neutral, whisky and rum for the year.

Who am I kidding, I go through 15 gal in 9 months....maybe that's why my "check liver" light keeps coming on.

Post by **still_stirrin** » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:10 pm

goinbroke2 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:37 am....maybe that's why my "check liver" light keeps coming on....

Until it DOESN’T.

Gotta think...“4 off...1 on”. Give ‘er a chance to heal.

As a baby boomer, my CBC gets checked every 5 years. If my liver enzymes are high...I’ve got to abstain for a couple of YEARS! Just pay attention to the markers, cirrhosis is not good.
ss

Post by **goinbroke2** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:42 pm

Thanks for the concern SS but its all good. I think I give away more than I drink in reality.

(well, probably, lol)

Post by **Dewstiller** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:52 pm

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