My New Shed

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My New Shed

Post by punkin » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:28 pm

Thought i'd share some progress piccies of the new distilling shed.

It measures 5.4m by 4m with a 2m verandah out the front.
edit. Thats 18.3 foot by 13.2 foot.

Has a man size access door with 2 windows and a 7' by 8' loading door, rolling gantry crane, drum wash bay, 500 litre rainwater tank for ferments and will be shopping for a 1000 litre rainwater tank for recycled cooling water. Mains pressure town water above the wash grate...yiddyayiddya...


This is the front, shows the two doors and the frame for my flash spy window, you can see the gantry in the middle of the loading door.

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Heres a better shot of the gantry, theres also a whirlybird to go in the roof for cooling on the western side.

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This is the wash bay, it's not finnished, needs sand/cement hob around it to smooth rough edges and round the toestubbing edges. Galvanised grate.


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Got a few days off this week so hope to get the eastern gutter up and finnish the roof at least.

More piccies later....




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Post by CoopsOz » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:48 pm

:D :lol: :D

Well done mate....looking good.
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Post by HookLine » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:16 pm

Looking good. But no insulation? Or just not in yet?
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nice

Post by Uncle Jesse » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:21 pm

very good work and it looks like a nice, private and safe place to distill.
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Post by Pikluk » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:01 pm

really nice.
i dream of the day id build a room for my hobby :).

tho i cant figure out(unless it would be a work shop also) why a crane for distilling?
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Post by alice » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:06 pm

Pikluk wrote:tho i cant figure out(unless it would be a work shop also) why a crane for distilling?
I can. Ever tried to lift a 100-litre fermenter up onto a table so you can pour into your still?

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Post by punkin » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:08 pm

Thanks guys , it's taking shape.

Insulations not in the budget, i've spent a grand total of $1400 on it so far, that include3s the 5" x 3" RHS frame. It's cyclone/hurricane/conventional civilian bombproof. Scrounging has done me proud so far and i think fans will do me for the time i spend in there. I've got a big kero dome type camping heater that'll hand from the roof in the winter and hopefully run on foreshots. :wink:

Yes, the shed is large enough to house a small workshop with a workbench and welding bench, along with a cutting bench along one wall, so the gantry is envisaged as a 'just in case' so i can not only lift drums of fruit or mollasses off the back of my ute, but i can lift the engine out of it too (touch wood i never need to) :roll:

I've got some almost new carpet to go over the pavers i got for nuthin and a large rubber mat for the wet area.



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Post by big worm » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:22 pm

thats nice punkin, really nice. a true craftsman....its amazing what can be had for scrounging if ya look.
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Post by alice » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:25 pm

punkin wrote:I've got a big kero dome type camping heater that'll hand from the roof in the winter and hopefully run on foreshots. :wink:
Hehe, I like the way you think Punkin.

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Post by Pikluk » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:31 pm

alice
I can. Ever tried to lift a 100-litre fermenter up onto a table so you can pour into your still?
i just thought pump would be cheaper and easier...
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Post by DestructoMutt » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:50 pm

shhh..don't say anything about a pump in front of the wife, yet...it's next, i couldn't figure out how to plausibly get the crane after the pump, so it's crane first, then pump.. :wink:

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Post by punkin » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:58 pm

Pikluk wrote:
alice
I can. Ever tried to lift a 100-litre fermenter up onto a table so you can pour into your still?
i just thought pump would be cheaper and easier...
Dunno bout the pump being easier or cheaper...there's certainly a pump system going in, i'm not lifting a 40-50kg boiler onto the rim all the time. But finding the right pump is the rub.
Looked at hand sullage pumps, washing machine pumps, 12 volt macerator pumps, sump pumps...none of em are quite right for our application (lumps of grain, acidic medium, gotta have dry lift, etc) and they start getting pricey too.
Still haven't settled on a system yet, but the hand bilge pump is winning so far.
Pity the washing machine ones won't lift, they'd be perfect. :roll:

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Post by wineo » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:28 pm

Thats cool as hell pumpkin,Wheres the barrel house?

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Post by Tater » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:33 pm

With that rig ya could always raise wash higher then still and siphon or drain into still . Very nice setup.
I use a pot still.Sometimes with a thumper

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Post by tracker0945 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:08 am

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen::mrgreen:
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Post by pintoshine » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:18 am

I like the crane. That would make 600 lb barrel of HFCS easier to move.

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Post by punkin » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:37 am

Thanks guys, my barrels and jugs will be stored in a welded steel and mesh cage. The doors and windows are all to be held closed with bars, and the locked cage might slow anyone greedy enough to take what's not theirs a little longer.


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Post by Butch50 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:45 am

Punkin that is outstanding!! I could only dream of such.
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Post by Pikluk » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:46 am

heres a cheap way to "pump" your mash in the boiler.
wont work with all type of boiler tho, if you cant remove or seal the column it wont work.

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the principle is you remove the air in the boiler and it pump the mash in.
this can be done for less the 50$.

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Post by BW Redneck » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:07 pm

Punkin wrote:Dunno bout the pump being easier or cheaper...there's certainly a pump system going in, i'm not lifting a 40-50kg boiler onto the rim all the time. But finding the right pump is the rub.
Looked at hand sullage pumps, washing machine pumps, 12 volt macerator pumps, sump pumps...none of em are quite right for our application (lumps of grain, acidic medium, gotta have dry lift, etc) and they start getting pricey too.
I've heard of using sewage pumps for moving stuff like that. One thing to say though: make sure it ain't used! :shock: :lol:


Otherwise, nice job! I've been thinkin' about making a setup like that in the (kinda sorta hopefully near but probably won't happen) future with one addition.
I'd want to make almost a giant version of Pint's still for stripping very large batches (since stripping runs need little heat control) and run it off of a woodstove so I can take advantage of the firewood that is readily accessible in this region. Then, I'd take the low wines from that and run 'em through a keg still on propane.

And, my barrel house would be 30 feet from surrounding buildings and have a sprinkler system installed. The crane could then be used to haul full barrels from the stillhouse to the barrelhouse, but using a dolly would be just fine.
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Post by bushido » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:17 pm

Taco Pumps work well for heavy loads too.
Are you on Sat Internet Punkin? Not to change the subject, but whats your experience with this? How's the speed and are you affected by the weather?
BTW, nice bit of construction there. I'm sure it will do you proud!

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Post by goose eye » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:31 am

you can get barel arms for block an takle for round 100. they can tip to

goin this path aint no time to be getin proud with pictures but good job

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Post by theholymackerel » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:33 am

Punkin, check out the pumps that some hombrewers use... they are food-grade, can handle VERY high temps, and are affordable.

Somethin' like this: http://morebeer.com/view_product/17311/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow






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Post by punkin » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:39 am

Already got a 2 1/2 tonne winch for it goose. You got me round the wrong way too. Never sold a bottle yet and don't intend to start. I have a mate who brews turbos, flavours em and sells em and there's another guy at work who flogs the same stuff for ten bucks a bottle. Couldn't compete with that cheap cordial even if i wanted to (which i don't :lol: ).

Just have a fascination with getting it right atm and don't have room to do it in the house or the shed. I always meant to build a workshop there, but the plans got moved forward by the missus when she started tripping over fermenters in the laundry.


Those pumps aren't selfpriming HM.


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Marine sewage pump is high on the winner list BW, can't do the very large batches either as i'd run out of storage room and have to stop brewing...just haven't got that many mates :D

We've got tight water restrictions here Pikluk, the pump i was most interested in was one that i read about in a thread on here i think. Can't remember where it was or who posted it (mighta been Harry), but it just squeezed the tube to pump, and the pump itself never touched the product. Peristaltic it was called.
Just couldn't find a cheap, reasonable capacity one in Aus or anywhere else.


Made some good progress yesterday, all the welding is done on the shed now, gotta build some benches today, must put a shirt on though. The welders got me sunburnt.



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Post by Pikluk » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:46 pm

the opposite can be done too, push air in the fermenter even a aquarium air pump would work (a bit slow maybe).
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Post by HookLine » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:19 pm

Peristaltic pumps are low flow rate, low volume pumps. Their big advantage is accuracy. Find them in a lot of medical and lab applications.
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Post by azeo » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:00 pm

great building punkin, really inspiring!

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Post by alice » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:03 am

bushido wrote:Are you on Sat Internet Punkin? Not to change the subject, but whats your experience with this? How's the speed and are you affected by the weather?
You can PM me if you have any questons about sat internet, bushido. I'm (ahem) a bit of an expert on the subject :)

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Post by punkin » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:48 am

Gotta fair bit more done over the last week. All the guttering and roof is on, and it's fairly well weatherproof. Built myself an 8' by 3' steel workbench with a 2" timber top. Cleaned out all the crap laying in the shed and rolled out the carpet, cut the rubber mat for the wet area, and started moving in and fitting out.
Used the gantry for the first time to get my workbench in. Probably weighs 150 kilos, but i swung her in, swivelled it round, and lowered it down where it goes all with one hand :lol: :lol:
Got my drums and bins full of grains and mollasses stored under there, i'll have to take a piccie, just didn't realise i had so much fermentables piled up waiting for the space to play with em :oops: :oops:

Installed my spy window too. It's a flash bit of gear, i bought it brand new from a second hand dealer for not much years ago to go in a camping canopy i was building for my ute and never used it. Dunno if it's out of a caravan or an armoured car, but it's smoked one way glass on the outside and lexan on the inside. There's a sett of slimline venetians inside with a little knob in the shed to operate em. looks great.


I've also been thinking about cooling water. i have a 500 litre tank of rain water just outside the door that i plan to pipe in, and use my existing wheelie bin inside as a float tank holding an extra 100-200 litres, but i'm a little worried about going from my coil in a bucket with static water to relying on a pump to keep going.
Atm i can go into the house for 20 mins on a strip run and do other things in the yard ect, while periodiclly checking on things, swapping bottles ect without worrying about leaks or pumps blocking/stopping ect ect.

I was thinking if i set a 60-90 litre drum up on a shelf near the roof, pumped up to it and gravity fed through the condensor, at least it'd give me some time to notice a problem and the water level in the top drum dropping.
This is gunna complicate the plumbing though and make it more difficult to get the water back into my tank outside. Don't really know which way to go at this stage.
Maybe i could just use an electronic thermometer and hook a loud alarm to it?

Could do with some suggestions.

The shed should be operational in a few weeks.

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Post by Blind Eye » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:18 am

Really nice setup,man I could pour you a 4" reinforced slab with a stamped logo right in the center, you would flip your wig!!

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