Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

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Re: Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

Post by stillanoob » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:46 pm

v-child wrote:
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Absolutely just to make a fine drop. My goal in distilling was to make apple brandy from trees I planted in a still I made out of a sheet of copper. I have spent more building my still then I have spent on spirits in 20 years. Hopefully by the time I die I will have amortized that down to a reasonable cost per bottle but right now each bottle is phenomenally expensive.
That reminds me of the Bass fishermen. By the time you add in all the rods, reels, lures, bass boat, trolling motors, depth finders and other sundry crap their fish cost them about $80 an pound.
Perfect analogy. Like the fisherman, I enjoy the process, love the gear, like to be able to brag and I couldn't care less what it cost me. :D

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Re: Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

Post by Yummyrum » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Yup . Everytime I have to buy something for distilling , I remind my self how much I’m saving by not having hobbies like boating , hunting or motorbikes :D

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Post by bronctoad » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:44 pm

Yummyrum wrote:
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Yup . Everytime I have to buy something for distilling , I remind my self how much I’m saving by not having hobbies like boating , hunting or motorbikes :D
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Post by kiwi Bruce » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:12 am

bronctoad wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:44 pm
Yummyrum wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:32 pm
Yup . Everytime I have to buy something for distilling , I remind my self how much I’m saving by not having hobbies like boating , hunting or motorbikes :D
+1 yummy
you forgot racecars :)
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Re: Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

Post by Windswept » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:30 am

I got into it because I'd been wanting to try it for a long time and a part of me (smaller part now) wanted to turn it into a business and go legal. I'm on and off the fence on that now depending on how bad a day I've had at my day job!

I feel like I do make booze cheaper than I could buy it, and my profit margins would be a lot better if I'd made smarter decisions in the early days about what to buy and what's useless.

I continue doing it because I'm getting better at it and I'm finding that I can drink my own stuff hangover-free whereas I get brutal hangovers now from commercial junk.
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Quality was first goal, but I am a cheap bastard!
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Post by Tabucowboy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:35 pm

I love to build stuff and figure out how it works. My kids say I have to many hobbies. (Brewing, Distilling, Building Teardrop trailers, Gardening, Aquaponics, Motorcycle Rebuilds) Maybe I should find one that does not cost so much

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Post by HDNB » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:41 pm

I think Jimbo said it best. I'm a cheap bastard that likes nice things.
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Post by Windy City » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:17 pm

I started out because I thought it was the next step of evolution from being an all grain beer brewer who also loved bourbon. But through my journey I have found that I love the build of complex cool machinery that helps me make a fine drop that I am proud of. I love all aspects of this hobby, whether it’s countless days of doing a complex build or the hours in the rocking chair sitting in front of the still doing warm up and then just switching jars. This is my time. As a business owner I have high stress of making sure my company and employees are being taken care of. My time in front of the still is my time to relax and reflect while keeping busy making sure everything is running right.
I have also found a strong camaraderie on this forum and have made life long friendships that I truly cherish.
If the question is solely do I do this for cost or quality the answer is simple.
It’s about quality and trying to make the best spirit that I can. It is a matter of pride and accomplishment, so when I sit down at the end of the night and have a sipper of my own I feel happy.
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Re: Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

Post by Oldvine Zin » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:39 pm

Just started to put what I have spent in this great hobby into a spread sheet and now realize that if I wanted cheap booze, I have done it wrong. I could have a lifetime stash of Jack Daniels for what I have invested in half of my stilling toys. Would I want to drink Jack for the rest of my life? F-no.
So for me it's all about the craft of distilling and controlling what I drink, by the way I still buy products that I can't make myself IE Tequila and I'm a sucker for a great barrel aged grappa .

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Post by heynonny » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:52 am

Initally the science of it, then trying to make excellent white dog, then, (like General J D Ripper, rainwater & pure grain alcohol!), getting the highest %/proof I could get.

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Post by durty_dunderpants » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:45 pm

for pretty almost all of the reasons mentioned above. tradition, independence, craft, parties. but to extend, it's a lot about making something that truly matches my tastes that i can't buy anywhere. can be simple or complex.. round here finding white heartcut pure barleymalt unaged (so slightly sweet still) spirit just doesn't happen. nor does finding a caramelly aged whiskey made from the same mash as my similarly aged imperial stout.

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Post by Legba » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 am

I started because my dad built me a CM still a few years ago. I continue to distill only because I like learning things and making stuff.

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Post by kiwi Bruce » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:47 am

I saw a bottle of this over the weekend...
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$500.00 !

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Post by Windswept » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:14 am

kiwi Bruce wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:47 am
I saw a bottle of this over the weekend...

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$500.00 !

Let me rethink why I Distill !
Right? I picked up a bottle of Woodford Reserve a couple of weeks ago for 70$, had one drink out of it and thought "70$ could buy me a lot of materials for UJSSM and I'd rather drink that..."

Not saying my stuff is better, but I can tell you what I'd rather drink!
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Post by goinbroke2 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:35 pm

Started when I was 14 to make money from high school kids(and did) but later in life got back into it because I'm cheap. Once I got better it was because I liked it better than store bought. Then I got into seeing how good I could make all grain. Then when I discovered the wife liked old sugar wash crap better than all grain corn and all grain barley...I just started doing volume. Now I'm at the point of doing 25 gal sugar washes every 4 months or so.(5 gal of 68% neutral)

It's more of a job or chore than a hobby now.
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Re: Why do you distill ? Cost or Quality ?

Post by Yummyrum » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:49 pm

goinbroke2 wrote:
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It's more of a job or chore than a hobby now.
It can feel like that sometimes goinbroke

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Post by Yonder » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:49 pm

Because I can. Quality is better, tho’ I didn’t know that when I started. Cost don’t mean shit if you enjoy what your doing and getting something good from it. Like a good job. Did mine for 39 years; loved it most of the time. Then it got ta be where I’d go ta bed Sunday with tears in my eyes ‘cause I knew Monday was next. You know when it’s time ta do something else.
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Post by NZChris » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:35 pm

goinbroke2 wrote:
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It's more of a job or chore than a hobby now.
When I put down a big ferment it takes me a weekend of hard out distilling to turn it into finished product, but that only happens a couple of weekends a year. It can be hard work at the time depending on what I'm making, but it never feels like a chore. It's my stilling weekend and woe betide anyone one who gets in the way.

Making gin etc. from the bulk spirit will never be a chore.

I feel sorry for the distillers who try to keep their cellars full, or who are trying to fill a barrel, using any of the 'one run and done' methods with a smallish boiler. That really does sound like a chore.

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Post by goinbroke2 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:20 am

I think I have too many other "hobbies" so when I get low on likker it's something else I have to do. Start distilling at 9am and by 5-6pm I have about 5gal of 68%. Just checked and bubbling stopped so tomorrow will be stilling day. Today is working on the shed and the weekend is taking the motor home and mud trucks to a pocket run. Busier now that I'm retired than I ever have been, lol.
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Post by bilgriss » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:50 am

Both, but neither is the main driver. I love learning how to do things, and would rather make my own.....anything. The general trend for people to want the final product of "X" to come in a cheap box has spoiled many great things.

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Post by Durhommer » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:37 am

I distill for the fun of it.when I'm in the mood to do so it's quite enjoyable
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Post by Yummyrum » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:43 am

Durhommer wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:37 am
I distill for the fun of it.when I'm in the mood to do so it's quite enjoyable
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You Sir are a very lucky bugger ... enjoy :thumbup: ... as do I’m sure ... most of us :ebiggrin:

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Post by Durhommer » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:45 am

Thanks yummy I just today achieved a 40 minute heat to fores time with my new insulation salvaged from a metal roof job. Way better than 75 minutes with the old stuff on my mile hi 8 gallon boiler
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Post by zed255 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:51 am

I got interested when I connected with my father and found out he ran a still. Since taking it up it has been an interesting and satisfying adventure.

I like to build things and learn new skills. I have done runs to put relatively inexpensive booze in my cabinet, but doing different things and honing the craft is more of a motive than saving money. The money sunk onto everything I have related to mashing, fermenting and distilling would buy many years worth of likker. On top of that I like to teach; one of my good friends is now interested and has assisted with a couple runs.

And by several accounts I have long surpassed my 'ol man's product, which is very satisfying in itself.
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Post by Durhommer » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:57 am

Zed its awesome you are passing on the craft and that your dad stills too. I'm teaching my daughter a bit about mashing grain as she has made my last single malt almost by herself
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Post by kiwi Bruce » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:41 am

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Thank You Windy City...We home schooled all three of ours, about the same time as I did start stilling... and now I think you nailed it !
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Post by Truckinbutch » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:55 pm

v-child wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:00 pm
stillanoob wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:45 am
Absolutely just to make a fine drop. My goal in distilling was to make apple brandy from trees I planted in a still I made out of a sheet of copper. I have spent more building my still then I have spent on spirits in 20 years. Hopefully by the time I die I will have amortized that down to a reasonable cost per bottle but right now each bottle is phenomenally expensive.
That reminds me of the Bass fishermen. By the time you add in all the rods, reels, lures, bass boat, trolling motors, depth finders and other sundry crap their fish cost them about $80 an pound.
You left out that jacked custom $65,000 pickup to haul the boat . And , the fact that may , like me , fish 'catch and release' . What does one of them fish you let go and didn't eat cost per pound ?
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Post by Alberta Rye Man » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:12 pm

Anything I do on my own gives me a sense of pride. I think that was my initial reason. I still get that through improvement. I'm still young in this, so I've got lots of improvement to look forward to. I do, also remember feeling cheated and pissed off at the price of the last bottle I bought though....

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Post by Up in the Shed » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:02 am

Where I live, a 60 ouncer of cheapest crap booze cost $65, no exception. So definitely enjoy making it for $5 a bottle. However, now I prefer homemade. Enjoy the flavour more and the quality.
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