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Postby Bourbon_Greg » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:48 pm

I have skimmed through all of this and my question is about adding boiling water to the Brute trash can fermenters. I have not been able to find any definitive answer in my online searches but most comments are that these cans are only rated to 140F or 180F. Can anyone provide a link to any official site that confirms 212F is OK in these? Also, how about the blue barrels with red lids? Does anyone know the temperature ratings for these?

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Postby Expat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:18 pm

Bourbon_Greg wrote:I have skimmed through all of this and my question is about adding boiling water to the Brute trash can fermenters. I have not been able to find any definitive answer in my online searches but most comments are that these cans are only rated to 140F or 180F. Can anyone provide a link to any official site that confirms 212F is OK in these? Also, how about the blue barrels with red lids? Does anyone know the temperature ratings for these?

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Adding hot water to room temperature grains will result in a temp a fair bit lower than boiling. Also, unless you're doing corn, you won't be going anywhere near that high.
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Postby Bourbon_Greg » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:05 pm

I am doing corn. Corn Grits actually. I find it better to add grits to boiling water instead of water to dry grits, otherwise I get clumps. Water drops to 190 pretty quick but would go into container at 212
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Re: Will these work

Postby jog666 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:57 pm

Have you tried to contact the company that makes the barrel? Or a company that sells them?
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Re: Will these work

Postby Bourbon_Greg » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:16 pm

Contacted the selling company and they say polyethylene (which is what the blue barrels and I think the Brute cans are also made of) have "filling" temperature of ~160

My biggest concern is leaching plastic. If that happened would the distillation process remove it? Could it flavor the finished product? It seems a lot of people are doing this with the Brutes.
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Re: Will these work

Postby steelmb » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:21 pm

Bourbon_Greg wrote:Contacted the selling company and they say polyethylene (which is what the blue barrels and I think the Brute cans are also made of) have "filling" temperature of ~160

My biggest concern is leaching plastic. If that happened would the distillation process remove it? Could it flavor the finished product? It seems a lot of people are doing this with the Brutes.

It would seem that the people who should be the experts on the material gave you an answer you did not like so now you have turned to the armchair experts here to give you the answer you do want. You, yourself is responsible for what tolerance you have for using funky materials. People here will use all sorts here when it comes to fermenting, ie non food grade trash cans, non food grade mop buckets, plastic bags, even septic field filter fabric. I have no doubt that someone here will give you the answer you want so why not just go ahead and do it? Personally I would not use a trash can can for fermenting whether I was mashing at a high temp or not. I doubt manufacturing standards are real high for a vessel that is meant for trash.
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Re: Will these work

Postby Fart Vader » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:52 pm

Food grade barrels are usually HDPE or high density polyethylene.
Here's some info about pe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene
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Re: Will these work

Postby jog666 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:33 am

Or just buy one of these and not worry at all? I also checked mcmaster carr, the price is higher but they have more sizes & options.
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Re: Will these work

Postby still_stirrin » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:28 am

For investment purposes, how about one of these fermenters ? If it only had an integral water jacket....
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Re: Will these work

Postby Oldvine Zin » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:09 pm

still_stirrin wrote:For investment purposes, how about one of these fermenters ? If it only had an integral water jacket....
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Wow that's a lot of $$ for a 18 gal tank

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