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Re: Steam generator test

Postby shadylane » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:45 am

copperlover1 wrote:When the water solenoid functions it kills the steam because it let's it in directly to the tank. So I timed it. 25 seconds steam. Water solenoid cycles. Steam dies for about 5-8 seconds. Than full steam again

Maybe have an electric valve to vent the boiler, when the water valve is open
That might fix the problem caused by the "5-8 seconds" of vacuum
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:48 am

copperlover1 wrote:Tastes like a lot of vinegar.


That's a big shame CL1 , :thumbdown:

Maybe some of the bath toys weren't clean . .....seriously though , You are a braver man than me fermenting with nothing to stop the critters and fly's getting in
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:11 pm

That's just overflow from the air lock sitting on the lid.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby shadylane » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:19 pm

copperlover1 wrote:Tastes like a lot of vinegar.

That don't sound good :oops:
Real sour would sound better
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:10 pm

I had to dump it all. What a mess. I loaded it all up in my Dr power wagon. Made it half way through the field. Hit a bump and.the dumper tripped and blam-o. I wish I had a video. Everything is on hold now. My youngest son is graduating high school so the focus is on his party. He will be leaving for marine boot camp early August.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:36 am

copperlover1 wrote:That's just overflow from the air lock sitting on the lid.

Yes I see now :oops: ...what a mess .
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:20 am

Ok everyone I finally got the check valve. Where is the best location for it?
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby Brutal » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:59 am

Hey CL did ya cook anything with it yet?
Steam injection rig http://tinyurl.com/kxmz8hy
All grain corn mash with steam injection and enzymes http://tinyurl.com/mp6zdt5
Inner tube condenser http://tinyurl.com/zkp3ps6
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Tue May 15, 2018 2:06 pm

Nobody wants to help me locate the check valve?
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:40 am

Going to start with it at the bottom.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Thu May 17, 2018 5:18 pm

Ball valve to control the water in. Hopefully I can keep the boil when the solenoid valve let's in water. Planning a test run Saturday.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby StillerBoy » Thu May 17, 2018 5:32 pm

Thanks for the update..

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Re: Steam generator test

Postby acfixer69 » Thu May 17, 2018 6:01 pm

copperlover1 wrote:Ball valve to control the water in. Hopefully I can keep the boil when the solenoid valve let's in water. Planning a test run Saturday.


regulating make up water is never a good idea IMHO.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby Yummyrum » Thu May 17, 2018 7:03 pm

Copper , the check valve will stop the mash sucking back for sure ..... but if a vacuum is being created , you need to let something in or your boiler may implode . Do you have a second check valve to prevent this ?

And by the way , hope you have better luck this run
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:46 am

I have a vacuum pressure gauge and a breaker Valve on the top of the steam wand.
I don't want to buy a regulator just to test my theroy of controlling the in water to maintain the boil. If it works I will buy one so no one can accidentally close the supply off.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:48 am

Great questions guys. Made me put out answer's I have in my head but forget to put on paper so others can see them.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sat May 19, 2018 2:57 pm

Success. I think the check valve would be enough but I ordered a water regulator valve to replace the ball valve. I have unlimited hot water at home so I was able to start with 100°f water. 100 lbs of corn ground to corn meal. Took it to 190°f in 1-1/2 hours.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby acfixer69 » Sat May 19, 2018 3:09 pm

That is awesome. Regulating valve will make it even better to dial in the feed rate. Nice job :thumbup:
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sat May 19, 2018 5:27 pm

Thanks. I should have a sg in the morning. The mash is really grain heavy but I wanted to see how it went with maximum weight on the steam wand.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby shadylane » Sat May 19, 2018 6:00 pm

:thumbup: looking good, Ya got 100# of corn cooked :clap:
Tell us more about your process
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sun May 20, 2018 5:45 am

SG this morning was 1.073 potential 11.99 %. I bit high so I will scoop some out into another drum and water it down.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby MichiganCornhusker » Sun May 20, 2018 6:11 am

No stir, no muscle, no scorch. Very nice. :thumbup:
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Mon May 21, 2018 5:01 pm

Yes steam is the way to cook grains. Now I need to work on building a thumper.
My process for this batch was very basic. I barely follow and real protocol.
It's a 40 gallon food grade barrel. So I filled it half way with hot tap water. Put my SEBstar HTL in. Which I calculated wrong. I did it for 50 lbs. And than I turned on the steam. I adjusted the ball valve so the water in would only slow the boil down. It was like a 1-2 second pause. But with the check valve it always had pressure in the line.
I started adding my 100 lbs of corn. That's my enzyme calculation mistake. Got the paddle mixer in there and mixed it all up.
The pressure gauge held at 3 PSI the whole time. And it took 1-1/2 hours to get to 190°.
I shut it down and opened the bypass valve to vent the system. Pulled the steam wand out and covered the barrel. I made sure I cleaned it good and flushed the check valve good.
I left it 2 hours. Added cold water to get to 150° and added the SENamyl. Again I used the wrong amount. I figured 50 lbs. Than I left it until the morning.
The SG was 1.073 which was a bit much so I took some out and watered them down. Pitched my bread yeast and she was bubbling in 30 minutes.
So I only used half the amount of enzymes I was supposed to use and it still did great. You can't go wrong with them.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby hellbilly007 » Wed May 23, 2018 3:33 pm

I'm glad to see that worked out for ya copperlover. This gives me something to keep an eye out for.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Thu May 24, 2018 8:18 am

Regulator came in. I have I set up for garden hose fittings.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:07 pm

Regulator in place. RV water hose . Gauge says about 8 psi. The boil stops but only for a second or two. Ran it today. Three batches. 75 lbs corn and 30 gallons water each batch. 2 hours to get to 190° F. It was a beautiful thing to watch.
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:09 pm

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Re: Steam generator test

Postby shadylane » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:56 pm

I'm jealous
Your steam cooker is prettier than mine
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby WIski » Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:35 pm

Copper, any idea how much water you added to the mash while cooking for the 2 hours?
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Re: Steam generator test

Postby copperlover1 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:56 am

Sandylane don't be jealous of me. It's not mine anymore. It's was actually a experimental build for a friend who started a small distillery. When I started the post he wasn't licensed. That was part of the very long pause in the post. Waiting for him. He has a small working space and a very limited budget.
Wiski: I'm not exactly sure how much water. I tried to watch it rise and measure the barrel. Less than five and more than two. Next time I will mark the barrel. Than scoop out when I'm done to take down to the mark. I'll post exactly how much.
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