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Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:15 pm
by humbledore
OK everyone I have been looking at boxes for my 10kW SCR controller which is currently sitting in a metal outlet box. Yes it hangs out the top and is not covered and has no room for a fan, I just lay one on top. I have been searching for this for a while, I will randomly run across people talking about their controller case. I am hoping to pick up some ideas. So let's hear about 'em!
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Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:44 pm
by S-Cackalacky
I use the same controller. My box is a grey plastic junction box from Lowe's - found on the electrical isle. The size is 6X6X4 inches. It has a 6X6 inch square lid with screws on the four corners. My fan is attached to the CPU heatsink I used to replace the original heatsink. This box should give you plenty of room to install a fan. Just drill a pattern of holes in the position where you attach the fan to the box and some holes on one other side to vent the air. If possible, you want to position the fan so that it blows directly onto the heatsink. It should all fit in the box nicely.

It's nothing fancy - just the controller w/fan and the wiring to power it.

S-C

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:13 pm
by bellybuster
My box is an alarm box, quite a bit bigger than usual but was $6 at the local reuse centre.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:16 pm
by humbledore
S-C in my area they do not allow plastic junction boxes, metal and conduit are required per code so they don't even sell them. But something like this could work (not cheap for a plastic box):

http://www.amazon.com/Hammond-1591VSBK- ... roject+box" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:24 pm
by bellybuster
Most places now have reuse it centres, they are a great place to find stuff on the cheap. I had a choice of at least a dozen different boxes.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:34 pm
by humbledore
Belly I'm not sure there's something similar here... Maybe a goodwill? Can't imagine they have metal project boxes.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:47 pm
by jholmz
mine is just a cah box from a rummage sale. i run usually 10 gallons through my keg at 220v and havnt needed a fan, no overheating problems

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:53 pm
by Soft batch
Computer power supply box, complete with 12v transformer and fan.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:01 pm
by S-Cackalacky
humbledore wrote:S-C in my area they do not allow plastic junction boxes, metal and conduit are required per code so they don't even sell them. But something like this could work (not cheap for a plastic box):

http://www.amazon.com/Hammond-1591VSBK- ... roject+box" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
I looked at Lowe's online and found this - http://www.lowes.com/pd_10029-1716-L513 ... RRWidgetID" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow . That's not exactly like mine (smaller). The one pictured is 4x4x4 and mine is 6x6x4 and cost about $12. Anyway, the one in your link may be a little too small to fit in a fan - don't know. You have some other good suggestions here. You should be able to come up with something suitable.

Good luck,
S-C

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:28 pm
by humbledore
jholmz wrote:mine is just a cah box from a rummage sale. i run usually 10 gallons through my keg at 220v and havnt needed a fan, no overheating problems
Ha I like that one! Looks portable, like the president's nuclear control suitcase.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:39 pm
by marshrunner757
I'm about to build mine and think I'm going to use a dry box you get from sporting goods outlets.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:26 pm
by humbledore
Soft batch wrote:Computer power supply box, complete with 12v transformer and fan.
I would like to see that. I have access to old computer stuff.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:27 pm
by humbledore
S-Cackalacky wrote:
humbledore wrote:S-C in my area they do not allow plastic junction boxes, metal and conduit are required per code so they don't even sell them. But something like this could work (not cheap for a plastic box):

http://www.amazon.com/Hammond-1591VSBK- ... roject+box" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
I looked at Lowe's online and found this - http://www.lowes.com/pd_10029-1716-L513 ... RRWidgetID" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow . That's not exactly like mine (smaller). The one pictured is 4x4x4 and mine is 6x6x4 and cost about $12. Anyway, the one in your link may be a little too small to fit in a fan - don't know. You have some other good suggestions here. You should be able to come up with something suitable.

Good luck,
S-C
I like that one. I am looking for a smaller one, I don't need a 12x12 box. Although I will have to drill some holes for sure. Thanks for the link.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:27 pm
by humbledore
marshrunner757 wrote:I'm about to build mine and think I'm going to use a dry box you get from sporting goods outlets.
What is a dry box?

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:35 pm
by marshrunner757
humbledore wrote:
marshrunner757 wrote:I'm about to build mine and think I'm going to use a dry box you get from sporting goods outlets.
What is a dry box?
A hard abs plastic box. Used for boating a lot. Also used for keeping shotgun shells in. Walmart carries them.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:20 pm
by Halfbaked
jholmz wrote:mine is just a cah box from a rummage sale. i run usually 10 gallons through my keg at 220v and havnt needed a fan, no overheating problems
Cash box what a novel idea.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:59 pm
by apdb
special edition Grand Theft Auto 4 safety deposit box controller
special edition Grand Theft Auto 4 safety deposit box controller
Any video game nerds will recognise my future controller box. I hoping to attach a emptied bullet and casing to the pot. for a needle.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:50 pm
by NineInchNails
I recently bought one of these boxes (12"x10"x5") for a pretty elaborate controller with lots of bells & whistles. I know it's kinda pricy but it's real nice. They have a box with the same dimensions with fewer removable panels for $37. They have boxes of all sizes.

This project box is also really nice. I've made a couple PID controllers using this box.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:02 pm
by bellybuster
ammo cans work really well too. Cheap as dirt at most surplus stores. Even cheaper if you know any Military guys.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:23 pm
by Cardinalbags
I purchased this metal box at at Harris&Roome electrical supply store for about $30. It measures 10"x10"x6" deep. More than enough space for internal wiring, relays, heat sink and phase angle controller. It has all the proper knock-outs on the sides of the box for incoming/outgoing wiring just like your home electrical panel.
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Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:57 pm
by humbledore
Cardinalbags wrote:I purchased this metal box at at Harris&Roome electrical supply store for about $30. It measures 10"x10"x6" deep. More than enough space for internal wiring, relays, heat sink and phase angle controller. It has all the proper knock-outs on the sides of the box for incoming/outgoing wiring just like your home electrical panel.
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One thing that is a little unnerving about electric is that it's dead silent until it gets going. I was thinking about some kind of "on" light. Is that what the light bulb is for?

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:05 pm
by humbledore
Surprising, McMaster actually has some reasonable cases.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-electric ... es/=q51qx3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

I am thinking a smaller one, maybe like this, it has the knockouts too:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#75065K11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:21 pm
by Cardinalbags
humbledore wrote:
Cardinalbags wrote:I purchased this metal box at at Harris&Roome electrical supply store for about $30. It measures 10"x10"x6" deep. More than enough space for internal wiring, relays, heat sink and phase angle controller. It has all the proper knock-outs on the sides of the box for incoming/outgoing wiring just like your home electrical panel.
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One thing that is a little unnerving about electric is that it's dead silent until it gets going. I was thinking about some kind of "on" light. Is that what the light bulb is for?
Yes. I wired the lightbulb for a visual indicator that power is on to the boiler. My flow switch cuts power in the event I lose cooling water to the condenser. The analog ammeter and voltmeter also swing to zero, but its hard to not notice the light has gone out.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:10 pm
by S-Cackalacky
humbledore wrote:Surprising, McMaster actually has some reasonable cases.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-electric ... es/=q51qx3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

I am thinking a smaller one, maybe like this, it has the knockouts too:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#75065K11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
That smaller one is the same size as my plastic one. It's a good size for adding a fan and maybe an ampmeter or voltmeter.

S-C

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:23 pm
by YHB
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A bit of a packing case, a couple of old floor boards and some left over paint.
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Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:49 pm
by humbledore
Now that is done up right! Now if you'll just hand me the missile launch codes I can take over.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:28 pm
by humbledore
Sorry if I offended you YHB, I had a few that night. Hell, I'm having a few tonight too. But here is what I ended up with, the $15 case from Mcmaster. 6x6x4" high, with knockouts on multiple sides. I was shooting for something smaller.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:02 am
by YHB
humbledore wrote:Sorry if I offended you YHB
Why would I be offended? My shed is defiantly "early industrial" with more than a hint of steam punk. I think the controller box fits in nicely with the décor and blends in with the boiler.

I made the box a bit on the big size to leave room for temperature gauges and electronics etc, unfortunately the interference from the SSR wiped out the gauges and now they they are in a separate blue box on another wall.

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:22 am
by humbledore
are the switches for the gauges only or do they turn the elements on/off?

Re: Let's see your controller box

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:44 pm
by sambedded
This is mine controller in 6x6x4 plastic box:

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