Whiskey from flour

[KatoFong]

Among the many reasons I haven't tried to make whiskey is the fact that there really aren't any places to buy whole grain around me. At least not for a reasonable price. Is it possible to make a decent whiskey from flour? Like a mixture of rye flour and corn meal? Or would I just end up with a yeasty glutinous mass? (Not that there's anything wrong with yeasty glutinous masses; add a few raisins, a little cinnamon, some brown sugar...that's some good eating)

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[Bujapat]

Found on homedistiller.org :

Wal summarises a few moonshine recipes ...
If you want to make your own recipe, keep in mind grain contains about 60% fermentable material. About 1 to 1.5 kg of grain is normally used / 4 L (1 US gal) as the mash is quite thick, the rest can be sugar. 1 kg grain/4 L water would be equivalent to 600 g sugar/4 L, so you could add an additional 200 g sugar/4 L to give a 10% alcohol yield which beer yeasts should handle. The crushed grain needs 10% crushed malted grain for malting. e.g. a generic moonshine mash for 20 l could be 5 kg crushed grain, 500 g crushed malted grain, and 1 kg sugar. Other combinations are possible.

Kentucky Sweet Mash
20 L water (5 gal)
2 kg (4 and 1/2 lb) corn meal
500 g (1 lb)
50 g malted grain
Moonshine
20 L water (5 gal)
6 kg corn meal (uncooked)
0.6 L malted corn

The Fine Art of Moonshining
Fermenter - barrel (55 gals or 220 l)
1/2 bushel (30 lb or 14 kg) Corn Meal
a)
3 & 1/2 lbs (1.5 kg) malted corn
2 handfuls raw rye to form cap on fermenting mash
Optional - sugar, 40 lbs (20 kg) in 2 lots - 10 lb (5 kg) then 30 lb (15 kg)
Yeast not mentioned.
b)
1 bushel (60 kg) corn meal
1 & 1/2 gal (6 l ) malted corn
Yield -
Pure Corn 1.5 gal (4-6 l)/bushel (28 lb or 13 kg)
Corn & Sugar 6 gal (24 l)/bushel (28 lb or 13 kg)

Never tried personnaly to brew meal, but they say it works!

[possum]

Two issues with using flour.You must add sugar to it, or convert it with enzyme.

If you convert, you could use either some crushed 6-rowe malt, or you could use a prepackaged enzyme. Gert strand has a yeast pack that includes a low temp enzyme powder mixed in the yeast/nutrient pack. The methods for the two are very different.

You could add sugar to uncooked flour, but I suspect that there might be a lot of gummyness building up in your still. Flour particles are hard to get clear.

One point of advice, others have used the corn meal with success. I used ROASTED CORNMEAL with real bad results. I found more success with cracked corn.I use a 10%or more ratio of malted barley to convert my starches.

Alot of the grains can be had from internet suppliers. Costs are similar to homebrew shops, Shipping may slightly increase expense.


I WISH YOU LUCK KATO FONG

[Blueflame46]

Since there are so many pros and cons on using flour as a mash bill, i have approached it on an experimental basis.
Flour definitely wants to clump in contact with hot water. But on touching on my cooking experience, i know that many Roux and stews and soups use a flour base after slowly adding it to hot fat or oil and after it is cooked, it foes not clump, and turns out into a beautiful smooth gravy. So i figured I'd cook the flour, and then add it to the mash bucket
I microwaved a kilo in a baking tray for a minute. Turned it over with a spatula and repeated it 4 times more for 30 seconds each on high and stopped when it started to smoke. Tossed it around some more, let it cool down and mixed it with the CC.
Mixes like a dream. But made the mash milky. Strained everything through a pillow case before distilling. So far done the first run only, but very drinkable already. Havent done the second run as i mashed another batch yesterday. This time i roasted 1 kg AP flour in a large wok, till it got a pale brown ( really nutty aroma). Also roasted 2 kg hulled barley (thats the only type we get here).
Mash bill
5kg cracked corn
2 kg roasted barley
1kg roasted AP flour
10 kg sugar
Pour boiling water over CC, barley, mix with drill mixer and add flour while mixing. Add amylase at 165 F
4 kg sugar mixed into 10 liters of hot backset with a teaspoon of citric acid
1/2 kg rice bran
25 gm bakers yeast
25 gm Angel Red label alcohol yeast
1 tsp DAP
1 tsp MgSo4
Add water to total 40 liter level
Mixed with drill mixer and sifted the rice bran on top as a cap.
Got to a roaring start yesterday.
SG at 1050 today .
Added 3 kg more sugar SG 1065
Have 3 more kg sugar to add.
I add sugar when SG drops around 1020
Do not add all the sugar at once, as you'll get a stuck fermentation.
Another 2 days and ill have all the sugar up to speed. I brought the last batch to 17% ABV, by step mashing the sugar.

I will do the next batch with 5 kg flour, and 3 kg hulled barley, 10!kg sugar, and of course the magical rice bran.
We dont get wheat bran here, but lots of rice bran. So live with what you get !!
Bye snd happy Shining !!!

[Bradster68]

Found on homedistiller.org :

Wal summarises a few moonshine recipes ...
If you want to make your own recipe, keep in mind grain contains about 60% fermentable material. About 1 to 1.5 kg of grain is normally used / 4 L (1 US gal) as the mash is quite thick, the rest can be sugar. 1 kg grain/4 L water would be equivalent to 600 g sugar/4 L, so you could add an additional 200 g sugar/4 L to give a 10% alcohol yield which beer yeasts should handle. The crushed grain needs 10% crushed malted grain for malting. e.g. a generic moonshine mash for 20 l could be 5 kg crushed grain, 500 g crushed malted grain, and 1 kg sugar. Other combinations are possible.

Kentucky Sweet Mash
20 L water (5 gal)
2 kg (4 and 1/2 lb) corn meal
500 g (1 lb)
50 g malted grain
Moonshine
20 L water (5 gal)
6 kg corn meal (uncooked)
0.6 L malted corn

The Fine Art of Moonshining
Fermenter - barrel (55 gals or 220 l)
1/2 bushel (30 lb or 14 kg) Corn Meal
a)
3 & 1/2 lbs (1.5 kg) malted corn
2 handfuls raw rye to form cap on fermenting mash
Optional - sugar, 40 lbs (20 kg) in 2 lots - 10 lb (5 kg) then 30 lb (15 kg)
Yeast not mentioned.
b)
1 bushel (60 kg) corn meal
1 & 1/2 gal (6 l ) malted corn
Yield -
Pure Corn 1.5 gal (4-6 l)/bushel (28 lb or 13 kg)
Corn & Sugar 6 gal (24 l)/bushel (28 lb or 13 kg)

Never tried personnaly to brew meal, but they say it works!

This looks tasty. I'm curious about the 500g(1lb) is there an ingredient missing or is this conversion from gram to pound?

Kentucky Sweet Mash
20 L water (5 gal)
2 kg (4 and 1/2 lb) corn meal
500 g (1 lb)
50 g malted grain