Any corn sugar experience out there?

[bagmanhd1]

I'm having some great success with UJSM (thanks Uncle Jesse), and was curious if anyone has used corn sugar instead of cane? I was visiting Ohio's only licenced distiller (Woodstone Creek in Cincinnati) last week, and the owner mentioned that i might have better distilate, and be able to make deeper cuts if I used corn sugar.

Second question while I'm here. Is it possible to add some rye and barley to the UJSM "grain bill" to get a more well-rounded flavor profile? I like the no-boil routine.

[punkin]

I'm having some great success with UJSM (thanks Uncle Jesse), and was curious if anyone has used corn sugar instead of cane? I was visiting Ohio's only licenced distiller (Woodstone Creek in Cincinnati) last week, and the owner mentioned that i might have better distilate, and be able to make deeper cuts if I used corn sugar.

Second question while I'm here. Is it possible to add some rye and barley to the UJSM "grain bill" to get a more well-rounded flavor profile? I like the no-boil routine.

Can't answer you're sugar question, but i can tell ya that you can use any grains you like so long as they're cracked to let the flavour in and out.

A small amount of malt barley works absolutely brilliantly in ujsm, and mine is taking an extra week or so to ferment atm because of this. The benefit is a much more rounded bourbony product.

[I-GOR]

After a couple of generations straight UJSM, I dumped a coupla pounds of whole rye berries in and it was fabulous. I did it on another run with malted barley after a couple of gen's - again, I highly recommend to anyone : go ahead and do it, Actually, I think I got a bit of starch conversion from the malted barley because the yield was a little larger than normal.

Get rye from the health food store, barley from the home brew supply store. Play around, mix & match, that's part of the fun! It's an easy way to get some pretty good sippin hooch. Right now I've got one goin with 3 lbs of quaker oats in it. Should be able to run it this weekend.

Corn sugar is gonna be more expensive for me, already looked into it, maybe you've got a cheap source. Pintoshine did experiments with high fructose corn syrup, I'm assuming he has a source, but did not have good results. Regarding cane sugar, I find that if the wash isn't completely dry, a burnt marshmallow flavor comes over early in the tails. That's just my observation, though.

[chefdaniel]

Corn Sugar=Dextrose. I use these guys' dextrose and fructose and some of their grains as well. Try their steel cut oats in a batch of Uncle Jessie's recipe. Both of these sugars ferment cleanly and completely dry with almost any yeast. I don't use turbo yeast. They ought to call it Turbot yeast...it brings an off flavor. EC-1118

Their cracked rye is good, but goopy. The kibbled rye is much better.

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[pintoshine]

My only experience is with de42 corn syrup,(de stands for dextrose equivalent) but seldom found without artificial vanilla flavoring(nasty distilled) and HFCS55 which I used to get to to feed my bees. The de42 tastes just like beat sugar and the hfcs is mildy flavored like tequila. Both require lots of nutrients just like granulated white sugar. I have never used thm in a UJSM method.

[chefdaniel]

Another good supplier of goodies. Great deal on molasses for a tasty rum...cheaper than the feed store variety and no sulphur.

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[goose eye]

pint you ever messed with glucose - brewin crystals-. supose to be dextrose.

so im tole

[RumBull]

I order the heavy corn syrup for my borther. He will add it to the spent grains of a previous wash with great success. It will produce a lighter product but better than white sugar. It comes from a food supplier in a 5gal. bucket (without vanilla).

Another good supplier of goodies. Great deal on molasses for a tasty rum...cheaper than the feed store variety and no sulphur.

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My feed store molasses is much cheaper than this source. I have paid $25 for a 5 gal bucket (60 lbs) but now am getting it at $.12 a lb. so a 5 gal bucket cost me $7.20. Not meant for whisky though.