Hi Everyone
Thought i would introduce myself.
Been madly reading newgroups etc trying to get up to speed on distilling but got heaps to learn
Have done a few beer homebrews and made wine in commercial quantities.....but making wine and making a wash are two different things
As the Head Winemaker I learned the trade from used to say
"Making good wine is easy......making bad wine is even easier"
Just been given a Nixon/Stone (think thats the right name) reflux still head. I made a boiler from 50 ltr beer keg. Fitted it with 2 old electric kettle elements and everything seems ready to roll..done a couple of cleaning runs but the temp here has been over 40c for a week so waiting for a cool change to try my first spirit run.
Have no "mains" water so will be recirculating water from a 1000ltr tank alongside the still. hope thats enough without the use of ice etc.
Require a bit of help guidance on the following:-
1) Need help on the circulation path of the water through the still.....being an old refrigeration mechanic (also how we chill/heat wine in the winery) I set the flow up so the water entered at the bottom of the condensor.passed through the condensor to the highest part of the column cooling jacket and the return water came from the bottom of the column.Thus the warmest water meets the warmest vapour....or does it go the other way so as to give max reflux???
2) Almost that time of year again when I can lay my hands on tons of grape marc for nothing...got a few spare 1000ltr fermenters.I have been wondering if it is worth and water and sugar to get marc to get a high alcohol wash with lots of "body".....Did an experiment on a small 300 ltr batch and with EC1118 yeast and doing pump overs and air injections finished up with a "dry wine" of about 22% alc...............did not have a still at the time so could not turn into spirits. Any of the experienced members used grape marc like this......could supply me with enough wash to last me all year .
Lots of interest articles on this site.....thanks to everyone on their input
Just Been Given A Still head
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Re: Just Been Given A Still head
Hi Hilltopper.
Looks like you are no beginner in the brewing dept! Leibig theory says the hot vapors travel towards the cool coolant, they travel towards each other. 1000 Litres of coolant must be plenty even if the outside temp is in the 40's, you may need more or less but you'll have enough.
Get it going and see. Stillin mistakes can be corrected so there is more leeway compared to the brewin.
Looks like you are no beginner in the brewing dept! Leibig theory says the hot vapors travel towards the cool coolant, they travel towards each other. 1000 Litres of coolant must be plenty even if the outside temp is in the 40's, you may need more or less but you'll have enough.
Get it going and see. Stillin mistakes can be corrected so there is more leeway compared to the brewin.
Last edited by Ayay on Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Just Been Given A Still head
Um... ayay, I have to (respectfully) disagree. As I understood it, it was best to have the cooling set up the way that hilltopper described, so as not to disrupt equilibrium by having the condensate too far below the boiling point?
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Re: Just Been Given A Still head
You are correct Kiwi. Editted in the interum
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Re: Just Been Given A Still head
Hi HT,
1. Sounds right
2. Pushing your yeast to 22% abv is asking a lot of your yeast. They will probably throw some off tastes. if you aim for 10% to 12% you will get much faster ferments, with a cleaner product. My grape washes ferment out to dry in 2 to 3 days at 12%. The higher the ABV the lower the body.
Cheers
1. Sounds right
2. Pushing your yeast to 22% abv is asking a lot of your yeast. They will probably throw some off tastes. if you aim for 10% to 12% you will get much faster ferments, with a cleaner product. My grape washes ferment out to dry in 2 to 3 days at 12%. The higher the ABV the lower the body.
Cheers