The Official White Corn Thread

[Dan Call]

If possible, let's let this thread be all about working with white corn. Due dilligence shows that there isn't a thread on it, or even alot of discussion on it. IWhite corn is the standard for the bourbon industry.

I finally found a good source for white corn, after alot of searching. It's not so cheap, but this company is very reasonable on shipping. I wanted to pass this on. I don't know if malting on this would be possible. They offer bother cracked and whole.

https://store.honeyvillegrain.com/cart.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Now I'm wanting to move from the the "Smiley Still" to the Old Dog Compound Fractioning (ODCF). Ian's fractioning collumn is a good design and works, I bumped my two three inch copper on the build and extend the collumn 9 inches though.

Here's to working with white corn!

[blind drunk]

What a pleasant coincidence. I got some white corn meal ordered due to arrive in the next couple of weeks. Gonna grind it to a flour consistency and mash it with malt, for starters. Maybe add some wheat. It's been a long time coming for me to try this.

[Dan Call]

What a coincidence indeed! I was almost going to order the white corn flour from the same site. I'd be forever grateful if you'd post your mashing procedure.
I've used flour before but the straining is a miserable process, would like to see yours. I believe you could use enzymes with great results on flour.

[Washashore]

This is a very peculiar coincidence as I spent a couple of hours this morning googling the best corn for Bourbon (didn't find anything saying white corn was the standard, but now I know). I ended up deciding I would search for the sweetest, most flavorful varieties and came up with these:

Mirai
(this one has the option to order yellow, white, or mixed...I was wondering what the difference was besides color)

Hybrid sH2 Super Sweet

Gotta Have It

So why is white the standard of the Bourbon industry anyways?

[Dnderhead]

i tried white corn found it "bland"

[Dan Call]

Mostly tradition. George Washington specified it in his bill as "white Indian corn." The "Lincoln County Process" which JD used, specified white corn because it had a better taste apparently. I shouldn't say white corn is the standard for bourbon, but alot of whiskey distilleries, notably JD, but on most bourbon distillery tours I've taken, they do specify white corn, and the usual explanation is it's mellower. The farthest origin I can find in bourbon history is in the Sitzel Weller "wheated" bourbon bill that eventually became Old Fitzgerald, which was also passed on to Bill Samuel's Sr., and which exists in all the Van Winkle Bourbons produced today. I'd credit it to some way back there that used Indian corn instead of yellow, those people back when they actually made whiskey. The recipes have hardly changed for bourbons in forever, closely guarded secrets, and none of the high profile guys actually make whiskey. Bill Samuels Jr. has never distilled whiskey in his life.

[Dnderhead]

"indian" corn(flint) has 2 things going for it,it has less protein and more starch also the starch is not compacted as much as dent corn.

[Washashore]

Just bumped into this quick read:

http://www.differencebetween.net/object ... llow-corn/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Usge]

I've used that corn from there many times over years. It will malt. And it works fine. It's food-grade white "dent" corn. It is kind of powdery when ground, and it's quite starchy. i ordered it whole kernel and ground it myself in my corona in a bucket rig. Flavor from that is different than white "corn meal" I've tried. (ie., like Indian Head). It worked great in my thin mashes. But, didn't work so great in my cooked mashes. That said...I'm not a great AG masher anyway..so take that with grain of salt. Lastly, every bag I ever bought from them hatched bugs after a while. If you use them up fairly quickly...you'll never notice it. But, if you let it set around a long time..you'll want to make sure you keep it in something plastic (bucket, bag or trashcan). The bugs are mostly in the bottom, but they'll get out everywhere.

[Hillbilly dog]

If u have the space to grow your own white corn hickory cane is my favorite I'm going to plant 4 or six 150 ft rows this year last year I planted 1 row with 2 rows of yellow corn let it dry on the stalk picked and shelled yield 80lbs

[Washashore]

Thanks, maybe I'll order those. I've got a spot in my yard where I've had most of the local landscape companies drop wood chips, horse manure, and mulched leaves for the past 5 or 6 years. It usually builds up to 4' high 1/2 way through fall, then I level it out and build it up another 4' through winter. I think I have enough room to plant twenty 200' rows.

[Hillbilly dog]

U should go for it
We usually have 40 acres of silage corn in or large plots but not very good stuff for this hobby I like adding a view rolls to our garden just so I can say I grew it processed it and drank it. I have allwase said u can buy it cheaper than u can grow it but it's not the same.

Corn grows good in poor ground

4000 feet of corn should be a good yeald hope u have a co op close to shell for u.

Good luck let me know how it gos

[Hillbilly dog]

http://www.differencebetween.net/object ... llow-corn/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow[/quote]

So u master distiller s! Is there a advantage using white corn?

[ginjo]

"indian" corn(flint) has 2 things going for it,it has less protein and more starch also the starch is not compacted as much as dent corn.

That's good to know. I was thinking that flour corn would have had more, but it is hard to find good flour corn seed. Lots more flint and even more dent of course.

[onthekeg]

I personally would use the type of corn grown locally. I use good ol #2 yellow dent that is the same as traded on the CBOT.

[Dan Call]

Found this, again......

http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/whitecorn50lb.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow $48 for 50LBS white corn.

I now have a cost effective way to grind corn. The Champion juicer has a 1/3 HP motor, and a handy grain attachment, just $70, which is cheaper than any kind of grinder I can find. Looked at Goodwill, but no luck.

If anyone has any good places to buy grain mills please post.