sweetfeed whisky

[whitey71]

I ordered distillers yeast DADY. It is red star. It worked like clock work 7 days done.I have also used fleischmanns highly active same results. Beer tastes a little bitter but good. Smells like wine you forgot about in the glass the next day waitin on my still, got 6 of red and 6 of fleischmanns ready to go.

[likkerupfront]

is it safe to assume the grain floating on top of my mash is spent and could be skimmed off with a collander or something? i know i have to note how much so i can add back with my second generation creation

[Odin]

That's what I do: take out floaties. And replace like 20% of the grainbed. If you are low on supplies, just fish out the floaties and the grainbed will be good for about 5 to 6 generations in total.

At least, that's my experience.

Odin.

[likkerupfront]

do i take them out now or when i draw it off to run it?

[Odin]

I take them out just before I draw the beer out from the fermenter.

[Dan Call]

Okay....punt the sugar. Sugar vodka is too rudimentary.

I have a ready supply of enzymes. Anyone had experience doing enzyme conversion on sweet feed? If corn is the hardest grain in sweet feed, then cooking to expose and break down starches should come easier. Perhaps that reasoning would likewise supply to conversion using enzymes?

Any feedback appreciated.

[dolemike]

A question for all of y'all runnin this in a flute. Do you reflux to collect foreshots and heads and then turn the water off to the dephlag and run it as a pot still? Or do you re-stack the column after collecting fores? Just interested to see what people are doin.

thanks

[bentstick]

Usually run fores and heads on a 10gal run of about 16 oz once it starts coming over, I collect 12 oz at a time, after airing for 48 hrs I usually end up with first 2 jars heads rest hearts, sometimes last jar is ify. My column is in to tails at about 89 abv, hearts come off at 92 abv, but this is guidelines off my column. I only reflux for 30/45 min then start reducing reflux until I get my target take off( 12 oz every 8/10min). Hope it helps

[sizzlnchef 1]

Hi All. I was just wondering if after 2 days my wash should stop completely? I know they said it really slows down after 2 days but stop completely?

4" of sweet feed in the bottom of the bucket
7 pounds of white sugar
8 tablespoons bakers yeast
5 gallons of water

This is the recipe I used

[USACelt]

Hi All. I was just wondering if after 2 days my wash should stop completely? I know they said it really slows down after 2 days but stop completely?

4" of sweet feed in the bottom of the bucket
7 pounds of white sugar
8 tablespoons bakers yeast
5 gallons of water

This is the recipe I used

What was your SG?
and your FG?

[sizzlnchef 1]

Hi All. I was just wondering if after 2 days my wash should stop completely? I know they said it really slows down after 2 days but stop completely?

4" of sweet feed in the bottom of the bucket
7 pounds of white sugar
8 tablespoons bakers yeast
5 gallons of water

This is the recipe I used

What was your SG?
and your FG?

Haven't checked FG yet

[kurgan]

Hi All. I was just wondering if after 2 days my wash should stop completely? I know they said it really slows down after 2 days but stop completely?

4" of sweet feed in the bottom of the bucket
7 pounds of white sugar
8 tablespoons bakers yeast
5 gallons of water

This is the recipe I used

I've had it finish in 3. What was the specific gravity after mixing everything together? What is the specific gravity now?

[Ohio Steeler16]

That is alot of yeast,is'nt it? I use 4 tb per 5 gal

[faste]

i have been following this thread for months now and i finaly put me a small stock pot still together till i can finish my keg still.. anyway i i mixed up som of this sweet feed mash. and it fermented out from 1.072 down to .998 about 6 days. but somthing must be wrong cause this stuff smells vile. maybe it turned to viniger or somthing. ive distilled some of the gerber and some corn meal mash and it wasnt half bad for first tries. i guess my question is what causes a wash to turn to viniger. guess i can try another batch and see?

[Odin]

Why don't you just run it and see how it comes over, first?

[faste]

I did run it, that's were I figured out somthing was amiss. I hadn't ever had anything smell this way, I couldn't bring myself to taste it. It come out the middle about 125proof. I have seen post were someones mash turn to vinegar. I haven't had I happen so I guess this did. I will try it again I still got plenty of sf.

[Odin]

Okay Faste, I misunderstood you. Thought you were unsure about your wash. Sometimes a not so good wash can clean up after distillation pretty well. Low wines, if no cuts are made, can be far from the final product, due to tails & heads present.

I remember making my fist Special K whiskey (like All Bran, only with a different sorta Kellog's). After one run it tasted like Sake. Not what I wanted, but not so surprizing either: it is mostly made up of rice flakes. Anyhow, after a second distillation and cuts, it turned out as a fine light whiskey.

Good luck on your next SF run!

Odin.

[faste]

Well I think it was feed itself, I thought it was all grain, it is mix at local feed mill. But the last ingredient is plant protein and they are pellets and taste as ronchy as the the wash and product smelled. So back to the search for all grain again lol

[Odin]

You don't want those pellets. Eventhough my experience is that the strange taste actually disapears over the course of a few months...

[aunt betty]

I have ran the sweet feed recipe through a reflux still and what comes out is just plain good.
I used baker's yeast. The product smells sweet and has incredible kick. Tooth licker.

[FossZ]

This recipe is awesome I'm on my 3rd gen and it gets smoother and smoother everyone loves it can't wait to have enought to get it on oak

[likkerupfront]

Well I made my first run of sweet feed this past weekend ... I would describe its taste as follows...it's pretty damn smooth at about 86 proof ... Nice flavor sweet finish really faint subtle molasses hint...with the grain flavor mingling in with it all... I Have about a qt to sip and a qt at 56% with a full charred piece of oak and a small piece of toasted in the process as well... I used about 27-%backins for the start of gen 2 which started at 1.068 and I will test it tomorrow as I still have some pretty decent bubbling... Since this is all new to me I have a couplequestions.. This gen 2 was will be a little lighter in color? My taste and smell is very pleasant but I would describe it as 15% more "sour" like a stale beer as opposed to the more beer like taste of gen 1. Is this normal for a sour mash? I have about 1/2 gallon of low wines for the gen 2 run do I put all this in my thumper or split it between the mash and thumper? Thanks for any and all help and opinions ...

[white_likker1]

How many reruns can you get from all grain feed? My corn gets 7-8 reruns.

[Odin]

You can keep on going if you change like 20% of the grain with every new ferment.

[bobtail]

I have my 5th or 6th gen. wash that has sat in the ferment barrel about 4 weeks now. Lack of time to run it + its smells great in the garage.
Pulled the sheet off the barrel today to take a looksee. This has a white skin layer over the top & you can see where its still has secendary fermenting and the bubbles get caught under the skin.
Is this still good ? do i discard the top & ferment the wash. Or leave the skin on top & siphon the wash below. I hate to waste this as the smell make me think it could be the best yet

[Odin]

Why not run it and see what you get? The cooking will sterilize the backset for the next gen. But you might need a new grain & yeast bed.

Odin.

[Uncle Bryan]

I’d say go for it. Skim off the top with one of those fine strainers.
Rack it and run it.

[BrewVegas]

This is my first run at sweet feed and my 3 run as a noob. I started with approx. 12 gallons of wash. here is what I collected in mason jars (about 12oz in a 16oz sized jar). The temperature was 68 degrees when i measured the proofs.

1. 114 proof
2. 112
3. 110
4. 110
5. 109
6. 106
7. 104
8. 98
9. 100
10. 100
11. 94
12. 90 - bb sized oil spots on surface
13. 88 - pea sized
14. 85 - pea sized
15. 80 - pea sized
16. 80 - dime sized
17. 74 - quarter sized
18. 74 - quarter sized
19. 70 - quarter sized

I taste bitterness until jar 10, the tails start at jar 12. So, is it possible that I only get one decent jar? I didn't do a stripping run. I started off with a propane burner on high until it started to distill, then I kept a pencil lead stream the rest of the way through. What do your cuts look like? Thanks!

[USACelt]

For Me #9 would have been deep on that single, but you were there not me
I double the stuff, 80% works for Me on modified sweetfeed.

[Drauka99]

if it was me I would combine and dillute bellow 40% with distilled water and rerun it

I just ran 15 gallons, combine with a gallon of heads and tails from a previous run and ended up with 3/4 gallon heads, 1 gallon tails and 1-1/2 hearts cut

I do single runs myself but I may not have refined my cuts as well as some but I am very happy with my results

heads for me ran - 70%abv to 65% , hearts - 65% to 52%abv and then I collected tails down to 30%abv

tails came on very fast with this mash

as an experiment I collected 1 gallon of the dunder and added back to the grain left in the fermented , added 10lbs of sugar and set it to ferment, want to see if this gets a more whiskey flavor if it was ran as a sour mash