rad14701 wrote:retlaw, that just goes to show how much our members of the military are considered to be dispensable peons here at home... You're like an empty soda can - most would rather toss you to the roadside than do the right thing and recycle you for the five cent deposit... I guess you should be thankful that you weren't left in the war theater with the rest of the military equipment... Perhaps harsh, but true - unfortunately...
Glad you're home...
Rad, I couldn't disagree more. Many polititians may feel this way using the armed service as a political pawn at home and abroad. Myself and i think "most" have a great deal of respect and gratitude to our service members regardless of how one may feel about reasons for deployment.
In this cover your ass society that we live in, nobody can make a discresionary decision anymore witch leads to an awful lot of stupidity. Also many of our govt agencys have an inflated sence of importance/power that to often goes unchecked.
"Glad your home" Now that part i can get on board with
Anything i do or say here is purely hypothetical and for information gathering and sharing purposes only.
retlaw wrote:tsa is dumber then you guys think,
this is a great example of their levels of ignorance,
U.S Army W.T.F! moments
As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:
When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That's where the stupid started.
First, everyone was forced to get off the plane-even though the plane wasn't refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.
It's probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren't loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.
The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it re-inspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to re-inspect our Cargo-just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, re-inspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.
This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.
So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they're going to confiscate his nail clippers.
The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I'm allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your F**K**G nail clippers so we can get the F**K out of here. I'll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]
To top it off, the TSA demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue". Who the Hell is hiring these people?
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns-but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Can someone please tell me What the hell happened to OUR country while we were gone?
Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy — with Transportation Security Agency and Suki French.
retlaw, is that how you were welcomed back from overseas? Unbelievable.
MuleKicker wrote:Can someone please tell me What the hell happened to OUR country while we were gone?
Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy — with Transportation Security Agency and Suki French.
They pull this Bullshit with broken down, 80 year old, blue haired ladies too.....
Tell ya what happened...... Policies created and implemented so that the gravy train riders can justify their existence. Tell ya what. Some them TSA's look like they could skip a meal or two.
It's sad that the TSA is the legacy of the 911 attacks. If the main point of those attacks was to make everyone scared enough to spend an amazing amout of money and time trying to make everyone feel safe, it was successful. The TSA jobs seem to have been filled by the lowest common denominator and it's depressing to think that harassing the folks that are actually doing something to protect us is considered rational.
heartcut
We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for I don't know.
December 2001 we are boarding a Southwest flight from Portland, Oregon to Las Vegas for the National Finals Rodeo
Now mind you of the 150 people getting on this plane 60 of us are wearing cowboy hats and 50 more are women holding the hands
of the guys in cowboy hats. I personal knew a hundred of the 150 people ( rodeo is a small and tight community )
We had all packed our knives in our luggage or left them at home.
Once we are on board the female flight attendant comments " I can't think of a flight I would a year ago felt better about being on,
a full load of cowboys all packin' knives and who know how to use them!" " If we should be attacked by terrorist during this flight
you all just feel free to treat them like calves at branding time, you all know what to do!"
"Slow Down , You'll get a more harmonious outcome" "Speed & Greed have no place in this hobby"
the terrorist are not on planes, they are in office...
Troopers ordered on ticket blitz http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow ... cket-blitz
An eye-opening state police internal memorandum obtained by News 8 challenges state troopers in one barracks to out-perform their trooper colleagues by writing hundreds of tickets on Friday.
The memo, distributed at Troop I in Bethany and obtained exclusively by News 8, basically lays down the gauntlet and any driver on a state highway is fair game. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pillage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Damn big R you're not having a good year so far, and I feel for ya. I grew up with the draft, Vietnam and still had a huge respect for the cops and mostly my country but when this shit keeps going on it makes me ashamed for what I used to think our country stood for. OMD
Sometimes I wonder why is that Frisbee getting bigger......and then it hits me.
Never before have I ever listened to 3 hours of the most detailed ambiguities. I recon my head is in the sand just trying to scratch out some kind of existence..and learn about makin in my spare time. Wish they were a bit more specific......
LWTCS wrote: snip. Never before have I ever listened to 3 hours of the most detailed ambiguities. I recon my head is in the sand just trying to scratch out some kind of existence..and learn about makin in my spare time. Wish they were a bit more specific......
LW; fear mongering has made a select few quite wealthy.
Was listening to talk radio the other day. They now sell food insurance. In case of mass catastrphy, these folks will provide you with MREs. Wow. Ever watch that new show, doomsday bunkers? Woah.
Sorry to revive a potentially old thread, but I could barely stomach going half way through page 6.
Gooberments messed up, plain and simple...their idea of it has changed and strayed from what it SHOULD be: "We The People"......pathetic country these days, and it makes me cry it became this way.
Shan, Shadow, S***Head,"Hey You"...I can answer to em all
jase1977 wrote:Yep, you americans are just plain stuffed.......
'Scuse me , sir . We have the potential to become "stuffed" if we allow the rulers to ignore the ruled . They rule by our vote and we retain that right by being an armed populace . That is the alternative if the ballot box does not prevail .
If you ain't the lead dog in the team , the scenery never changes . Ga Flatwoods made my avatar and I want to thank him for that .
Don't drink water , fish fornicate in it .
