I'm guessing it's mold? There're no off odors (kind of smell like baking bread), everything looks fine (other than this weird stuff). It looks like the surface of another planet.
The first time this happened I was doing Uncle Jessie's recipe, it was my 5th or 6th batch. For this batch, I had tried grinding/blending the cracked corn in a food processor before adding the sugar and water. I wanted to see if it affected the flavor. I use a stainless steel keg as my fermenter, and I used to cover it with a bunch of plastic wrap. I switched to using just a towel hoping the CO2 would keep out any bad stuff. I'd read on here that others do the same thing. When the ferment was more or less done, maybe day 4, I saw all of this on top of the wash. I skimmed it off and did the stripping run anyway. Never had any issues, even during the spirit run, everything came out great.
The second time I saw this was doing an all grain, cracked corn, wheat, and malted barley. I boiled the corn for an hour, at 160 added the wheat, at 150 I added the malt. I wrapped the boiler with towels to keep it warm, and let it steep covered overnight. At 95F I pitched the yeast. On about day 4 again, I saw all of this stuff. Again, I covered the keg with a towel. I have to admit that I would peek in about once a day, I may have let some bad stuff in.
What in the world is this stuff on my wash?
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Re: What in the world is this stuff on my wash?
Had the same thing on a sweet feed ferment that sat for about 1.5 months. I was told by others here and by researching that it was a lacto infection (don't remember the full scientific name) and that it may actually improve the flavor of the spirit. May be a problem if it continues through several generations.
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Edit: If you want to get rid of it, you'll need to thoroughly clean and sanitize your fermenter and that doesn't garantee that it won't show up again. I guess if it starts smelling off, then it would be a good idea to clean, sanitize and start over.
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Edit: If you want to get rid of it, you'll need to thoroughly clean and sanitize your fermenter and that doesn't garantee that it won't show up again. I guess if it starts smelling off, then it would be a good idea to clean, sanitize and start over.
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Lacto infection.
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Damn, that looks like something from the Sci-Fi channel!!
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Re: What in the world is this stuff on my wash?
Good sanitation will get you on your way. On the other hand, this infection seems to have two main sources. Through the air. And from within the grain itsself. Now, if you cook your grain, that's no problem. But in an UJ ... My experience? Wheat & Rye are more prone to this kinda infection. Mashing in your wheat at a higher temp (just after you stopped boiling the corn) might have helped, if the problem was related to the weat itself. If it is airborn, a HEPA filter may help preventing it.
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By the way, if I could get a good blowup of that third photo, I would frame it and hang it on the wall - Jackson Pollock got nothin' on that photo.
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Re: What in the world is this stuff on my wash?
Thank you all very much for the information. I will do a few things. First I will clean my equipment better, I thought I'd cleaned everything well, but I'll do even better. I have Star Sans so I'll give everything an extra once over. Second, I'll put the wheat in at a hotter temperature, it's not malted so there aren't any enzymes to get damaged. Third, I'm not going to cover the fermenter with a towel anymore, I'll switch back to plastic wrap. And the forth thing... I'll stop looking in and seeing how things are progressing, I'm guessing I'm losing the CO2 cap by disturbing it so much.
My fermenter is a keg with the entire top cut off, like a stock pot. I bought it used, they had used it to make boiled peanuts (however, I'm using it to make happiness). They used a saws-all or something to cut the top off, so it's a little jagged. I'll have to trim it so that it's even, then I'll slit a long tube and put it over the edge, then put a sheet of Plexiglas on top with an airlock. That will keep all the bad stuff out and I won't have to go through so much plastic wrap.
I agree that the pictures are very cool. Pollock did use a lot more color though. But alcohol was involved in both cases.
Thanks again everyone.
My fermenter is a keg with the entire top cut off, like a stock pot. I bought it used, they had used it to make boiled peanuts (however, I'm using it to make happiness). They used a saws-all or something to cut the top off, so it's a little jagged. I'll have to trim it so that it's even, then I'll slit a long tube and put it over the edge, then put a sheet of Plexiglas on top with an airlock. That will keep all the bad stuff out and I won't have to go through so much plastic wrap.
I agree that the pictures are very cool. Pollock did use a lot more color though. But alcohol was involved in both cases.
Thanks again everyone.
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Re: What in the world is this stuff on my wash?
Have a read of this thread by admin uncle jesse. http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5548. Great thread about lactic souring.
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