How to dispose of an alcohol still

[Truckinbutch]

Absolutely , Brutal . There are LEO's all over the country that use "officer discretion" in what they see when they think they might get to share a good drop .

[Pacman0810]

You're right, Pacman0810, there were mitigating factors, and I apologize to all for my rant.

All is forgiven. Its the hazards of this hobby, right

[emptyglass]

Sandeiago shiner, I think your answers are in the first handfull of posts.
The only suggestion I can think of not mentioned and contact hillbilly stills and see if he will buy it back off you. I imagine a restocking fee may be taken off the purchase price, but as he has a long waiting list, it may be benificial for him too. I can understand you putting your other values in front of a hobby. I'm just trying to think of ways where you get out of the bind without losing a heap of cash. I dont think anyone that dosnt know CA law can give you piece of mind, me included.

On some of the unrelated topics here,
Importing stills can have other problems unrelated to the TBB, lost and damaged shipping can be one of them. Depending on how the still is sent I imagine the TBB could easily determine a complete still is indeed a still, but its hard for them to do that with a still sent in parts.

Some countries its legal to grow baccy or carry guns, but they frown on distilling your own hooch.
Other countries they frown on you owning a firearm, but dont care much if you still a bit of hooch.
Then theres other countries that will stone someone for carrying a book or showing a womans face in public.
Everythings relative to where we are from.

[Dan P.]

wise words, emptyglass.

[lampshade]

Don't forget there are some countries where drinking alcohol is illegal... yikes.

[DAD300]

I think you've all missed a point here...there is no exoneration for having gotten rid of the still! The minute he sent money, he had committed the crime! I have too...so,

TTB comes to the house, says they have financial records of you buying contraband and asks, "did you buy a still from XXX.com?" You say, "Yes, I did, but I resold it, I destroyed it, I used it as a flower pot!"

Tough shitz...you still completed an illegal transaction and illegally took possession of a controlled item. And if you resell contraband, you have committed another crime. At this point having it in your possession or not having it is moot!

Relax...keep it...make yourself some good drink and KEEP CALM!

[Stilldrunk]

I think you've all missed a point here...there is no exoneration for having gotten rid of the still! The minute he sent money, he had committed the crime! I have too...so,

TTB comes to the house, says they have financial records of you buying contraband and asks, "did you buy a still from XXX.com?" You say, "Yes, I did, but I resold it, I destroyed it, I used it as a flower pot!"

Tough shitz...you still completed an illegal transaction and illegally took possession of a controlled item. And if you resell contraband, you have committed another crime. At this point having it in your possession or not having it is moot!

Relax...keep it...make yourself some good drink and KEEP CALM!

+1.

Fire that bad boy up!

[DAD300]

Don't forget there are some countries where drinking alcohol is illegal... yikes.

Doesn't mean they don't drink...every Arab country I've been to has a not so disguised wine making section in the market...Welsh's grape juice, check, sugar, check, yeast, check, airlock, check..."Allah can not see what you do in your house!"

[Dan P.]

Don't forget there are some countries where drinking alcohol is illegal... yikes.

Doesn't mean they don't drink...every Arab country I've been to has a not so disguised wine making section in the market...Welsh's grape juice, check, sugar, check, yeast, check, airlock, check..."Allah can not see what you do in your house!"

Not all Arabs are Muslim, nor all Muslims Arab, so let's let this shit die off, shall we?

[cob]

SanDiegoShiner hasn't posted since the 8th. in this thread, might still be reading but not sticking his head up.

[thecroweater]

In light of EG's post I had a little look through California state legislation , turns out you can own a still if its not for making alcohol, Storing it would have been sound advise, No law was broken buying the still nor would it have been selling it , so advise to destroy it was as I suspected stupid and erroneous advise. From what i have read this sort of letter is fairly generic and seem to have been sent out to all of the targeted venders customers (between 60,000 and 90,000 ppl i think) Sure the forum wouldn't as a whole support advise that all these people throw their still in the nearest dumpster and never mention the hobby again. Laws may vary from place to place but common sense doesn't and common sense was in my opinion not shown in this thread. If the attitude shown in this thread is prevalent it is guaranteed this hobby will never be legalized there, Hell given the opportunity to vote on it some of the posters here I feel would likely vote against it in fear of repercussions should it not get up
BTW it is illegal to still here too and it always has been

[cob]

thecroweater; in your reading did you find a size limit for a still in california?

[Dan P.]

In light of EG's post I had a little look through California state legislation , turns out you can own a still if its not for making alcohol, Storing it would have been sound advise, No law was broken buying the still nor would it have been selling it , so advise to destroy it was as I suspected stupid and erroneous advise.

Advising that the OP get rid of the still has no repurcussions except that the OP will never have to worry about it again, and of course he will have no still. Advising him to keep the still, on the other hand, and even to use it once the problem has "gone away", could have various and serious repurcussions for the OP. Are you going to accept responsibility for the advice you offered, should the shit hit the fan? No, you are not.
Now, my advice may not be perfect, but I can take responsibility for it, because it is fail safe.

[Dan P.]

I'd be interested to see your source for California law, Croweater.
All I could find was this, which is a bit iffy, in my opinion;
http://www.abc.ca.gov/forms/abc616nr.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

The thing about the laws surrounding distilling is that they can be a bit contradictory and confusing, because many were written before home brewing was made legal and were never updated, and because they often involve branches of law unrelated to each other, i.e. criminal law and tax law.

[IdahoStiller]

Advice is just that, advice. The guy has a job, house, wife and kids so I would imagine that he has enough common sense to embrace the advice that works for him and disregard the rest. If a financial planner suggests you buy Microsoft and you lose your shirt that isn't his fault, it is yours. You signed on the line. The only person accepting responsibility is the guy making the decisions.