refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Distillation methods and improvements.

Moderator: Site Moderator

Post Reply
Bardstown Road
Novice
Posts: 99
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:04 am

refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by Bardstown Road »

Is it possible? What would need to be done to successfully reuse the wash out of a boiler after distillation for refermenting new wash? Wanting to save water. Or is this all bad?
“Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.”
-Mark Twain
User avatar
bearriver
Master of Distillation
Posts: 4442
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:17 pm
Location: Western Washington

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by bearriver »

Look into dunder and backset, and their usage.
Hound Dog
Master of Distillation
Posts: 3002
Joined: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:45 pm
Location: Hounds Hollow, VA

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by Hound Dog »

I see a lot of people go through a lot of effort to save a few gallons of water. I guess here in the Confederacy I am used to water being relatively inexpensive. How high dollar is water in these other parts of the world?
LM Still Operating Instructions
Cranky's New Distiller's Advice
Using Google Search

Drinking Rum before noon makes you a Pirate not an alcoholic.
User avatar
S-Cackalacky
retired
Posts: 5990
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Virginia, USA

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by S-Cackalacky »

Read some of the recipes in the "Tried and True Recipes" section. Many of them talk about reusing backset or dunder in new ferments.

You've been a member here for 2 years. Maybe time you started doing some reading.
Every new member should read this before doing anything else:
Bardstown Road
Novice
Posts: 99
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:04 am

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by Bardstown Road »

I am actually asking for a friend. I have always used new water. I did read around and saw some reusing for flavor. I prefer having bitter moderators point me in the right direction considering the search function here sucks.
“Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.”
-Mark Twain
User avatar
S-Cackalacky
retired
Posts: 5990
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Virginia, USA

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by S-Cackalacky »

Not bitter - just an observation and a recommendation.
Every new member should read this before doing anything else:
User avatar
MichiganCornhusker
retired
Posts: 4528
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:24 am

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by MichiganCornhusker »

Bardstown Road wrote: I prefer having bitter moderators point me in the right direction considering the search function here sucks.
Lol, ah, choices...

Reusing backset will require getting familiar with pH and how it affects your (or your friend's) world. Extra flavors would be a bonus. Maybe calcium carbonate is easier to come by than water for some.
Shouting and shooting, I can't let them catch me...
bellybuster
Master of Distillation
Posts: 4490
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by bellybuster »

The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good
User avatar
S-Cackalacky
retired
Posts: 5990
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Virginia, USA

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by S-Cackalacky »

Best way to get an understanding of some of the issues related to using backset is to pick a tried and true grain recipe (Sweet Feed, UJSSM, or some other) and read the thread. Whether you intend to make the recipe, or not, that's where the methods and issues are discussed.
Every new member should read this before doing anything else:
User avatar
bearriver
Master of Distillation
Posts: 4442
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:17 pm
Location: Western Washington

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by bearriver »

Great advice Cack. There are lots of great techniques to be found in the T&T recipes. Jimbo's AG recipes and the rum recipes there pop in my mind as some of the best examples.
User avatar
MichiganCornhusker
retired
Posts: 4528
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:24 am

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by MichiganCornhusker »

bearriver wrote:Great advice Cack. There are lots of great techniques to be found in the T&T recipes. Jimbo's AG recipes and the rum recipes there pop in my mind as some of the best examples.
So true, I think the biggest reason T&T recipes get there is because the good stuff is as much a result of process as ingredient list.
Shouting and shooting, I can't let them catch me...
Bardstown Road
Novice
Posts: 99
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:04 am

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by Bardstown Road »

bellybuster wrote:The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good
Damn, how did I not see the hd Google search quick link. I have been going to Google and searching and 95% of my quick searches popped up homedistiller.org at the top anyways. Thanks for pointing out the obvious
“Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.”
-Mark Twain
User avatar
S-Cackalacky
retired
Posts: 5990
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Virginia, USA

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by S-Cackalacky »

I think some of the long running recipe threads are the most valuable treasures this site has to offer. Where else can you get a synopsis of the process from preping the ingredients to tempering the end product - with all the little pitfalls and nuances discussed at length. If a newbie READS the UJ thread, they are usually rewarded with a successful outcome. And, that's true with any other well discussed recipe. It's where the knowledge of the experienced and the questions of the inexperienced meld into something wonderful.
Every new member should read this before doing anything else:
bellybuster
Master of Distillation
Posts: 4490
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Re: refermenting/reusing wash after distilling 1st time

Post by bellybuster »

Bardstown Road wrote:
bellybuster wrote:The HDGoogle search is amazingly good, the search box up in the right corner is not so good
Damn, how did I not see the hd Google search quick link. I have been going to Google and searching and 95% of my quick searches popped up homedistiller.org at the top anyways. Thanks for pointing out the obvious

my work here is done
Post Reply