Decided to do a bit more experimentation with wood for aging. I looked around, and didn't see anything like what I had thought up, so I decided to run with it and see what happened.
My idea was to do more to impart different flavors into the wood. Namely more caramel type flavors. My cousin and I were in my woodshop, cutting sticks of different woods for aging and making up blanks to be turned into wood lids and talking about different ideas. And that's when we came up with my latest "idea". Below is a run-down of what we did.
We took an 8" diameter sauce pan and added apprx 3-4 cups of sugar and enough water to dissolve the sugar and heated the pan to a slow simmer, stirring often to keep from scorching and to dissolve the sugar thoroughly. We then add 3 sticks of white oak and 3 sticks of maple into the solution and let them soak while simmering for about an hour. We did this with white sugar, dark brown sugar, molasses and pure maple syrup.
After simmering for an hour, we left them to stand overnight, letting the solutions soak into the wood.
The next day, we pulled the wood and hung it to drip dry for a bit. Once they finished dripping, we put them all in an oven to toast at 300F for a few hours to both dry and toast. We watched as the sugar bubbled and caramelized into the wood. The smells coming from the oven were very nice to say the least!
We then removed one oak and one maple stick from each batch, increased heat to 350f and toasted for another hour.
And repeated this again with the last of the sticks and toasted to 400F. I then lightly charred with a butane torch, being as careful as I could to char each piece evenly and for the same amount of time.
The plan being to try 3 different temperature ranges, starting in the middle of the "sweet" temp, increasing to the mid-point between "sweet" and "vanilla", and finishing at the high point of the "vanilla" temp range. We used the graph below as a guide for temperatures.
The sticks will each be placed in a pint of corn whiskey (100% malt corn all-grain) and allowed to age in my basement "aging cabinet" (consistent 60F temperature, 40% humidity) for 3 months. I have also added 6 test jars with plain oak and hard maple toasted at the same temp, for the same amount of time and with as close to an identical char as I could achieve. The whiskey was all from a single batch for consistency.
This is basically a test out of curiosity, just to see what will happen. I like to experiment, and I figure it won't hurt to share my results with all of you.
More wood experimentation
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Re: More wood experimentation
Interesting, sounds like a summer of good drinkin ti me.
I have been wanting to do some wood ageing testing of my own... getting tired of the same ole same ole...
I have been wanting to do some wood ageing testing of my own... getting tired of the same ole same ole...
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Re: More wood experimentation
It started with my cousin questioning how the naturally occurring sugars in the wood reacted after the wood has been charred and/or toasted, namely those in hard maple (aka: sugar maple), as we were working with hard maple at the time.
So that brought up the question of "what would happen if we added more sugar to the wood and toasted and charred it to different levels"?
We had also just distilled the batch of wash that was essentially a screw up, but produced a very nice caramel flavored spirit. As we both really liked the caramel flavor, the idea of making wood that would further impart a caramel flavor sounded like a good idea to us. So we came up with a plan and went for it!
I really have no idea what will come of this experiment, and it may be a complete waste of time. But I won't know if I don't try!
I'm really hoping it works out, as some nice "caramel wood" to age some of my new "caramel rumsky" would be really nice!
So that brought up the question of "what would happen if we added more sugar to the wood and toasted and charred it to different levels"?
We had also just distilled the batch of wash that was essentially a screw up, but produced a very nice caramel flavored spirit. As we both really liked the caramel flavor, the idea of making wood that would further impart a caramel flavor sounded like a good idea to us. So we came up with a plan and went for it!
I really have no idea what will come of this experiment, and it may be a complete waste of time. But I won't know if I don't try!
I'm really hoping it works out, as some nice "caramel wood" to age some of my new "caramel rumsky" would be really nice!
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Re: More wood experimentation
A great experiment!
Presumably the scots toast the barrels they re-use, so if they have held sweet sherry, then sugars will be in there to be toasted. Probably some acids as well.
Presumably the scots toast the barrels they re-use, so if they have held sweet sherry, then sugars will be in there to be toasted. Probably some acids as well.
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Re: More wood experimentation
Just noticed an interesting thing here: https://rumdiariesblog.wordpress.com/20 ... d-the-art/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
They soak the barrels in wine or whatever before they toast.
Prompted by this thread, and as the Scots use sherry barrels for ageing whiskey, I bought some good sherry. Aside from the sweetness and the fruit, the thing that stands out is the acids - to balance the sugars on the palate. Acid + alcohol = ester + water. So there is another source of esters for the whiskey.
I have also toasted my oak dry. Soaking it will make it toast quite differently. Time to get some more oak going ...
They soak the barrels in wine or whatever before they toast.
Prompted by this thread, and as the Scots use sherry barrels for ageing whiskey, I bought some good sherry. Aside from the sweetness and the fruit, the thing that stands out is the acids - to balance the sugars on the palate. Acid + alcohol = ester + water. So there is another source of esters for the whiskey.
I have also toasted my oak dry. Soaking it will make it toast quite differently. Time to get some more oak going ...
Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to make whiskey. I think that what we have to say has more lasting value.
Anyone who tells you measurement is easy is a liar, a fool, or both.
Anyone who tells you measurement is easy is a liar, a fool, or both.