Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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Greetings from the Rocky Mountain Foothills (eastern side).

First I'd like to thank the many members who have contributed so much information to this site, without your knowledge it would have been a much slower course to taking up this hobby. I've been reading nonstop for the last 3 months and it feels like I've only scratched the surface. (My bleeding eyes disagree, but they'll heal :lol:)

As my name implies I'm keenly interested in making vodka and neutrals. I aim to create the purest neutral I possibly can. I want to put it on the rocks and not taste anything. Some of my current drinking vodkas are Imperia and Silver Tree (for goal purposes) Having never had a true neutral I understand that many people find them...lacking...in mouth feel. I figure once I can create a blank slate, so to speak, I can work on getting some feel to it. (Initial washes will be birdwatchers followed by an allbran....then I may dive into some all grains)

Having spent so much time reading I felt I was ready to start sourcing parts for a 3" lm/vm combo on top of an electric keg. I got the 3" pipe for free so that's the size I'm going with. The plan was 48" of packed column. Lava rock initially to be followed by SPP once I can afford it or spend the time to make some (Thanks DAD and BigSwede for the great fabrication threads).

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Unfortunately I ran into an issue. I'd heard valves were expensive, but then i saw the actual prices! :shock:

This led me to seriously consider a CC VM which brings me to my questions. I was going to do a combo because I continually hear that LM is better at compressing heads and VM's for tails compression. With the goal of making the cleanest neutral possible would I be hurting myself by not using a combo rig?.

In other words...is LM the best at heads compression because it's an LM? Or is it the best because you're not contaminating your VM takeoff with heads? If it's simply a matter of product takeoff contamination on a VM rig I'd be willing to put the still into full reflux, remove the takeoff arm mid run and clean it after heads are done, then put it back on for the hearts portion.

If heads compression is really just because LM is that much better....has there been an CC LM/VM combo designed? I know there are CC LM's and CC VM's but haven't found a discussion about a combo. The closest I've seen has a boka head below the CC VM and seemed to have some performance issues.

Anyway, long first post, thank you again and I hope to be seeing you all around. Happy stilling!
Last edited by Lazarus Long on Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Added moderator request to post questions in proper location on the forum.
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Re: Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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Welcome waterdrinker, sounds like you've been studying! To get your answers to still construction please go to the proper thread. Enjoy the forums! :wave:
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Re: Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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howdy!

don't concern yourself with the red flag, it's not you. some of these things have been damn near novel in length.

long and short of it is, everything you need to know is here. The other threads just need a read, so take your time enjoy the journey and have some fun!

Like Mr. GA Flatwoods sez: the hardest thing to put in a bottle of moonshine is patience!

don't be reluctant to post on the more advanced threads!
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Re: Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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Waterdrinker,

Welcome to the forum. I was partial to making a good neutral myself at one time. Glad to hear you have read up a bit before jumping into the fray.

Don't worry over my edit in your post today. Nothing personal. Just happened to be the right place at the right time.
Having read over the forum a bit yourself, you have seen how difficult it sometimes is to find a concentrated amount of information on exactly what you are searching. Posting questions in the appropriate forum will help others that come behind you find the answer more easily. Considering the questions you asked, your best bet would be to try in Research and Theory or possibly in Column Builds. Try one and if you don't get the response you are looking for you might want to try the other. However, one post is usually good enough around here. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

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Re: Hello, Thank you and (of course) a couple questions

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Heh, no worries about the edit. I can completely understand trying to keep the right questions in the right places, it's got to be similar to herding cats at times.

I'll head over to research and theory and make a bit of noise.

I also noticed on re-reading my first post, how difficult it can be to not come across as a stream of consciousness rambling wall of text. I'll work on that :)

Cheers and thanks for the welcomes
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