Best recipe for single run on a pot still

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:04 am

Hi all,

I've done a few runs on my 3 gallon pot still. Some good, some not so much. The not so great stuff is sub par I think because of bad cuts so I'm going to do a spirit run with it.

Here's my question: do you have a favorite recipe for single runs on a pot still?

I have ujssm gen 2 fermenting now. Anything else I should try???

Thanks
Fin

Post by **Jimbo** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:07 am

Rum turns out nice with a single run. Why are you averse to doing a second run? Really cleans things up nice.

Hound Dog · Post by **Hound Dog** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:33 am

There are a couple of people here who can turn a good spirit with a single run on a pot still but I think you will find the majority run double at least to clean up the profile. Have you mastered a fine drink double distilling yet? Once you do refine the ferment you are using for that and you will have it.

By the way, the best recipe can sometimes be "time". I have had neutrals that I thought were too hot or whiskey that was too tailsy. I let them sit a few months and Tada! Good drink. It's a must do for rum.

Post by **googe** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:28 pm

Try keep your wash % low too, makes for a nicer end product.

Post by **shadylane** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:31 pm

Best recipe for single run on a pot still ?
Plum or peach brandy
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Post by **S-Cackalacky** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:52 pm

For single runs, you might also think about adding a thumper to your rig. It will boost your ABV by at least a few percentage points and with a water or feints charge, it will also help to clean up your product a bit.

Hound Dog · Post by **Hound Dog** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:28 pm

S-Cackalacky wrote:For single runs, you might also think about adding a thumper to your rig. It will boost your ABV by at least a few percentage points and with a water or feints charge, it will also help to clean up your product a bit.

Ha! That's cheating. It makes it a 1.5 run not a single!

NZChris · Post by **NZChris** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:35 pm

No, don't have one.

Use a fermenter sized to ferment at least three or four still charges. Do the strips and then a spirit run. With a small still, that is the easiest way to build up enough quality stock so that you're not sucking on the spout and can have some put aside for aging.

Post by **jedneck** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:37 pm

Rads allbran using half again asmuch shredded wheat instead of allbran.

Hound Dog · Post by **Hound Dog** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:41 pm

jedneck wrote:Rads allbran using half again asmuch shredded wheat instead of allbran.

+1. Love the shredded wheat! Have you tried Cheerios yet Jed?

Post by **shadylane** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:44 pm

In my opinion, stripping and spirit runs are better than a single run.
If I'm thirsty, I'll steal some of the hearts from a strip for drinking as is.

Post by **jedneck** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:49 pm

I have mixed with shredded wheat

One Sock · Post by **One Sock** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:43 pm

A single run with a thumper for whiskey or rums will work, but a clean ferment of no more than 8% ABV is vital since you're not cleaning it up a lot.

MitchyBourbon · Post by **MitchyBourbon** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:45 pm

Although some recipes may be better suited than others, how you run your still is also very important. When doing a single run bourbon, I run my pot still just a little faster than I would a.spirit run. Cut are also important, and for a single run I tend to keep less than I would on a spirit run. Special attention to fermentation protocols is also very important.

rager · Post by **rager** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:52 pm

when i first started i worked though the the different ways of running. at this point its , i strip enough for a full boiler charge of low wines. its to simple. even though im running a 5 gallon pot. honestly though it takes about 60lbs ( or so) of grains to get enough low wines to do a spirit run.

this i very much like the 3 page thread in the same novice section.

One Sock · Post by **One Sock** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:31 pm

I used to do single runs of UJSSM, would spend a couple of days or more letting the wash clear, but the product would still end up tasting yeasty!

Doing strip and spirit runs I can start as soon as the ferment is done and no yeast taste or other funk, and the process is actually faster!

Post by **S-Cackalacky** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:16 pm

With a drain and fill port on your boiler, you can easily knock out 3 or 4 stripping runs in one stilling session. I'm running on low power (1375W) and it takes me from around 9:00am to 5:00pm for 3 strips- setup to cleanup. So, I usually do the strips one day and the spirit run the next. If I were running 240V, I could probably knock it all out in one day.

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:32 pm

Yeah, I get the stripping and spirits run process and I'm in the process of up sizing everything to accommodate that. I don't have a problem with doing it, I was just wondering if anyone had a good recipie for single runs is all. Maybe that's a unicorn. I like full flavoured spirits over neutrals. I'll keep looking - no need to further the debate on spirit runs. I do appreciate that fermenting is the key to quality single runs. That's a point I hadn't thought of....

One Sock · Post by **One Sock** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:04 pm

Rad's All bran recipe was what I started out with, even when I used an Airstill (Don't judge me!) it turned out pretty decent...

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:22 pm

Hmmmmm yeah that one looks good. Like birdwatchers but with some bran for nutrients and flavour....

bellybuster · Post by **bellybuster** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:23 pm

I'm a big fan of first gen UJ single run

Hound Dog · Post by **Hound Dog** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:37 pm

bellybuster wrote:I'm a big fan of first gen UJ single run

You are one of the few I was referring too that can get a good single run. I've heard you talk about it before. I need lots more practice before I can get there myself. But there's the goal now isn't it?

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:06 pm

I just ran off a batch of first gen UJSSM and it was indeed pretty good. We are getting better at cuts. I have a batch of second gen waiting to run too I will keep you posted. I ran some apple brandy that had a good flavour and was very smooth.

Post by **MichiganCornhusker** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:13 pm

Froot Loops are quite good run once. I'm afraid you would lose the subtle essence of the Froot if it was double distilled.

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:57 am

Hahaha. I had never thought of that. I'd want to dye it pink or something.....

Post by **Jimbo** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:08 pm

MichiganCornhusker wrote:Froot Loops are quite good run once. I'm afraid you would lose the subtle essence ....

Subtle ?!

um....

Post by **Danespirit** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:16 pm

I just finished a spiritrun a few minutes ago.
Recipe was basical a all bran.(put some müsli in also)
As i ran the strippingrun, i could have drawn of 1 L of quite pleasent spirit, but i decided to run the way i always do.
Two or three strippingruns and then one spiritrun.
Had only a half charge today (10 L), took me two hours from flicking the switch to turn off the pump.
Result: 30 Ml foreshots (had thrown 60 ML on the strippingrun), 0,4 L heads, 3.4 L hearts that needs to be dilluted and 0,7 l bitter tails.
Tomorrow i will be cutting them to 40% ABV...think it will give me around 4+ L of very pleasent spirit.

findlaym · Post by **findlaym** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:07 am

Ooooo, running gen 2 UJSSM now and its darn drinkable off the still.

One Sock · Post by **One Sock** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:31 pm

Honestly, no matter how carefully you single run it, there's no way you're not getting a lot of heads smeared into the product!

Try a double next time and you'll see!

Dan P. · Post by **Dan P.** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:50 am

There is simply nothing under the sun that is better single pot-still run than double.
I read a lot of posts about single runs. They are almost exclusively written by sugar fermenters, because they are getting an acceptable (to them) %abv from one run of a high abv ferment.
Nothing against sugar-heads personally (except I don't like the taste or style

), but even a sugar-head would be so much better run twice.

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