people huffing likker

[pfshine]

How many shots are you guys doing?

I haven't done shots since I started this hobby. But alcohol is a diuretic.

[Bagasso]

I haven't done shots since I started this hobby. But alcohol is a diuretic.

Was just another way of asking "How much are you guys drinking?".

Although I think the original post was tongue in cheek, the diuretic effect would be in proportion to that.

[NZChris]

I'll try anything once. This looks good.

The Ardbeg Haar is described as a “high tech carafe that utilises ultrasound pads that emit rapid vibrations, producing micro droplets which form the Haar mist.” Haar is the Scottish word for “a cold fog which sweeps in from the sea without warning, often enveloping Islay and the distillery which clings to its coastline.”

http://thewhiskeywash.com/2015/05/27/ar ... ur-whisky/

[Bagasso]

These are ultrasonic mist makers.

Saw a similar one to the haar called Le Whaf supposedly going for Around $170. Pretty expensive considereing you can get the same tech in usb humidifiers for as low as $10-15.

The real deal breaker with most members will be synthetics used to seal between the ultrasonic element and the container.

[StillLearning1]

I cant help but wonder if the reactions in this thread are the same as the reactions of the general public when distillation was first introduced. I wonder if people thought: we've been fermenting for years and that works just fine! Now people want to build these dangerous contraptions and concentrate alcohol to a crazy high level!

Just me wondering, I'm probably not at all historically correct, but I can't help but wonder.

[pfshine]

IDK it just seems like a bad idea to free base likker. When you drink it it makes a fatty acid that clogs your neurons to make you feel drunk and clumsy. I don't know what pure etoh will do to the brain or anything else. I need to research more for a definitive answer. But until then I still think free basing booze is a bad idea.

[gmm213]

Krusty the Clown once said "One vice leads to another, Bart. Then you end up like me, so jaded the only thing that gets you off is freebasing ground-up moon rocks. And this just gets me to normal!"

[NZChris]

The real deal breaker with most members will be synthetics used to seal between the ultrasonic element and the container.

It would have to be a pretty bad seal to put me off trying it. It's not at distilling temperatures and the contact time is short. I wouldn't go so far as to recommend this as the new way for artisan distillers to get the max out of their likker, but as a one off novelty, it's pretty tame compared to some of the stupid shit I've seen.

[Bagasso]

IDK it just seems like a bad idea to free base likker.

Free base is the wrong term although I know that it is slang used to describe anything ingested like this. The term actually refers to alkaloids, alcohol is not one, being in pure (base) form instead of being in salt form.

An example of this is the difference between regular chewing tobacco and swedish snus. They are both used orally but snus is said to give a stronger effect because snus is treated with bicarb so that the nicotine (and minor alkaloids) in the tobacco are free base.

When you drink it it makes a fatty acid that clogs your neurons to make you feel drunk and clumsy.

That isn't the way I understand it. While it is true that when you drink your liver forms fatty acids, these are not what make you drunk.

What makes a person drunk is the alcohol that slips by without being metabolized which remains in the bloodstream reaches the brain and binds to GABA receptors.

The body can only metabolize 0.25oz of alcohol per hour so every drink increases the BAC (Blood Alcohol Content). It isn't the metabolites being measured it is the alcohol.

That's not to say that inhaling alcohol can't lead to addiction but many of us, let's be honest, are already there. This is just a different way to administer the same substance.

[pfshine]

I can't dispute the things until I research further. And kudos to you bagasso for this.

[Bagasso]

It would have to be a pretty bad seal to put me off trying it. It's not at distilling temperatures and the contact time is short.

I hear you but some people are dead set against anything synthetic anywhere near their likker.

I wouldn't go so far as to recommend this as the new way for artisan distillers to get the max out of their likker, but as a one off novelty, it's pretty tame compared to some of the stupid shit I've seen.

I actually think that it is one of the better points. Letting you enjoy the flavor and the buzz, even on a regular basis, but having that bottle last 3 or 4 times as long.

In the end it's a personal thing.

[pfshine]

Check your pm's bg

[NZChris]

I hear you but some people are dead set against anything synthetic anywhere near their likker.

I have been known to nuke likker with a Mason jar seal. I don't do it any more, but I don't see much opposition to that from forum members.

[pfshine]

As long as its a mason jar the synthetics are OK.

[NZChris]

As long as its a mason jar the synthetics are OK.

I would like to see the manufacturers data that backs that up. I've gone to a different system that takes a little longer, works better, and uses no synthetics at all.

[Bagasso]

I have been known to nuke likker with a Mason jar seal. I don't do it any more, but I don't see much opposition to that from forum members.

No real point in gettng into it. Like you said it's room temp and not a safety hazard but some might be turned off by a 3/4 inch seal on one of those ultrasonic misters.

[NZChris]

What is the seal material?

[Bagasso]

It can vary. I don't know what those two examples might be using. I took apart a humidifier, not inteded for use with anything but water, which had a black rubber seal. I would think that these would use silicone.

Maybe you could replace whatever they are using for a piece of cork or some PTFE. It's not a large area that needs to be sealed.

[NZChris]

Does an Ardbeg Haar have a seal? It's difficult to find out on the net.

I wouldn't assume that the designers of such a stunning looking piece of kit are complete idiots and used a poor seal. I will be disappointed if I find out they are, and have.

[Bagasso]

The reason I mentioned the Le Whaf is because it looks so much like the Haar unit in your link. Both are probably just rebranded. Here is a pic of the Le Whaf and it does look like some kind of synthetic is used. The three large black spots are where the ultrasonic elements are and the small black post is a water level sensor and they all seem to be synthetic.

http://www.eatnwaf.com/wp-content/uploa ... /whif3.jpg

Google mist maker and you will see that someone just just stuck one of those in a fancy pitcher.

[WooTeck]

I'll try anything once. This looks good.

The Ardbeg Haar is described as a “high tech carafe that utilises ultrasound pads that emit rapid vibrations, producing micro droplets which form the Haar mist.” Haar is the Scottish word for “a cold fog which sweeps in from the sea without warning, often enveloping Islay and the distillery which clings to its coastline.”

http://thewhiskeywash.com/2015/05/27/ar ... ur-whisky/

a trip out to the distillery may be in order.

[NZChris]

I think it's one of those things where you just have to do it, rather than relying on the opinions of those that haven't.

[WooTeck]

im thinking that it spilts drinkers in to 2 camps.

those that like the process of sitting down with their favorite glass, favorite bottle dropping ice in. the sound of the chinck as it hits the sides. admiring the colour and aroma. then the flavors rushing over their pallet and finally the satisfying burn as they swallow.

and those that just wanna get drunk/experience a novilty(i cant imagen novelty drinkers will use the divice much). while it may impart some flavor i cant image it will hanging around or being as enjoyable as more traditional methods or nearly as refreshing.

id give the har a go at the distilary but i dont think id seek out smoking drink other than visitng ardbeg but it would be a very minor part.

[Tokoroa_Shiner]

As long as its a mason jar the synthetics are OK.

I would like to see the manufacturers data that backs that up. I've gone to a different system that takes a little longer, works better, and uses no synthetics at all.

The seal and coating on the bottom of the lids is plastisol. And all lids pre 2012 contain BPA.

[Bagasso]

im thinking that it spilts drinkers in to 2 camps.

We are already split in many ways.

I have never had the experience you described. Genetically, and I believe I got the short end of that stick, some people don't register likker as tasty: Is Booze Tasty, or Bitter? Your Genes Decide.

A nice drop can be appreciated and all but, refreshing? Not to me.

[pfshine]

As long as its a mason jar the synthetics are OK.

I would like to see the manufacturers data that backs that up. I've gone to a different system that takes a little longer, works better, and uses no synthetics at all.

The seal and coating on the bottom of the lids is plastisol. And all lids pre 2012 contain BPA.

I was being quasi facetious.

[aceswired]

im thinking that it spilts drinkers in to 2 camps.

those that like the process of sitting down with their favorite glass, favorite bottle dropping ice in. the sound of the chinck as it hits the sides. admiring the colour and aroma. then the flavors rushing over their pallet and finally the satisfying burn as they swallow.

and those that just wanna get drunk/experience a novilty(i cant imagen novelty drinkers will use the divice much). while it may impart some flavor i cant image it will hanging around or being as enjoyable as more traditional methods or nearly as refreshing.

id give the har a go at the distilary but i dont think id seek out smoking drink other than visitng ardbeg but it would be a very minor part.

Nonsense. Real aficionados don't add ice!

[WooTeck]

sitting down with their favorite glass, favorite bottle dropping ice in...

Nonsense. Real aficionados don't add ice!

i like ice in my bourbon. 1 small cube to 2oz.
i like ice in my gin 2 cube + tonic.
i like ice in my rum. see bourbon.

when it comes to non corn whisky i agree, i dont add ice to scottish whiskeys or ryes. just the ocasional splash of water depending on the drop.

[sltm1]

Earlier there was a mention about "Darwinisim", and the survival of the species. I heard a comedian comment on this topic once, "If you want to get rid of all the stupid people in the world, remove all the safety labels of things and nature will sort it out".

[jb-texshine]

Here in the US that contraption would be considered a still...!!!

Or a meth pipe....