Still learning CORN w/ ENZYMES

[CRACKERCREEK]

Hello all
I have run a few larger batches of corn with grain but am new at using enzyme for conversion. I am running a test batch to play around a bit but seem to be failing somewhere.

I started off with a almost spent bag of cracked corn about 3qts and 2 cups oats
6 quarts of H2O to start but brought it up to nearly 8
Ran it up to a boil stirring constantly. For an hour. Turned the heat down the temps backed off to the 175-180 range and I added my high temp alpha sebstar-htl . Let it do its thing covered overnight. I used .36ml per # of corn/ oats. Didn't seem like enough so I added another .36ml. My PH was good at 6-ish.
This AM I did an Iodine test and it was thin but very homogenized. I let this run all afternoon. Still no break and the iodine test is still showing black?

[CRACKERCREEK]

Last night

[CRACKERCREEK]

This morning

[CRACKERCREEK]

Looking for a clue here

[CRACKERCREEK]

Also used an emulsion blender to mix it up

[Kegg_jam]

Are you using SEBamyl as well?

[3d0g]

What Kegg_jam said. You've successfully liquified the starches, now you need to convert them to sugars.

[still_stirrin]

What Kegg_jam said. You've successfully liquified the starches, now you need to convert them to sugars.

.....doh.....
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[CRACKERCREEK]

Yes I have the Sebamyl also

[CRACKERCREEK]

Should the conversion from the corn starch solid to complex sugar be done with the sebstar-HTL and iodine test come back negative for starch ? Then the Sebamyl will convert the complex sugars to simple?

[still_stirrin]

Well, here's one thread....and there's many to read. Now read!
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... s#p7335282
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[CRACKERCREEK]

Larger pot and 1 gallon more water

[shadylane]

Here Ya go Cracker http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Iodine_Test" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[shadylane]

All the times I've tested for starch after using sebstar-htl or any other alpha enzyme there has been a reddish tint.
The Gluco has always finished the conversion for me.
Also when using cracked corn, bits of starch will cause a iodine test to be positive.

[robb]

Thanks Shady. Explains why I have been getting positive iodine when my SG is .999
CRACKER as you will read, the SEBamyl works fast. By the time you get to 148 F you are ready for your gluco and let that set overnight to convert.

[CRACKERCREEK]

Thanks guys

[CRACKERCREEK]

This evening

[dirkev]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the site... not new as far as reading, but new to posting. I've recently discovered the SEBstar and SEBAmyl enzymes from a video on youtube. But the posted site for where to buy doesn't look like the kind of site I would be comfortable sending my credit card information to. Where do you guys buy your SEBstar from? Can someone email me or private message me if they don't want to respond on this forum.

I apologize, I know I'm a bit off topic here, I just can't seem to find much information on this product on the web and seeing that some of you are using it successfully is giving me hope.


Thanks!

[still_stirrin]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the site... not new as far as reading, but new to posting. I've recently discovered the SEBstar and SEBAmyl enzymes from a video on youtube. But the posted site for where to buy doesn't look like the kind of site I would be comfortable sending my credit card information to. Where do you guys buy your SEBstar from?

Here: https://enzymash.biz/index.php?route=pr ... ry&path=33" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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[FreeMountainHermit]

Quick delivery. http://www.enzymash.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[shadylane]

+1 on enzymash

[Ferment_It]

Here's a vote for Woodshed's enzymes. They work dam well, are cheap, and he is a significant contributor to our forum. I used em last week to make a low malt 4 grain. Hit 1.073 at 2.25 lb/gal. First time I've had to water a (ag) mash down before pitching yeast.

[dirkev]

Thanks everyone!

[CRACKERCREEK]

6 gal topped off

[yakattack]

Is that finish blend or stripped lowwines.

Also is that carboy glass? It looks like one of the better brew bottles that many bear brewers seems to like so much.

Yak

[rager]

got my enzymes from the same site posted earlier. super fast shipping. less than 2 days. i havent used them yet but next week it will be on like tron

[shadylane]

Hello all
I have run a few larger batches of corn with grain but am new at using enzyme for conversion. I am running a test batch to play around a bit but seem to be failing somewhere.

I started off with a almost spent bag of cracked corn about 3qts and 2 cups oats
6 quarts of H2O to start but brought it up to nearly 8
Ran it up to a boil stirring constantly. For an hour. Turned the heat down the temps backed off to the 175-180 range and I added my high temp alpha sebstar-htl . Let it do its thing covered overnight. I used .36ml per # of corn/ oats. Didn't seem like enough so I added another .36ml. My PH was good at 6-ish.
This AM I did an Iodine test and it was thin but very homogenized. I let this run all afternoon. Still no break and the iodine test is still showing black?

Just a thought.
Add the SEBstar HTL to the water, start the heater, start adding the grain and mixing at the same time.
Keep heating and mixing until near the upper limit of the HTL, turn off the heat and mix for a little more.
Cover and get ready for the next step.

[rager]

Just a thought.
Add the SEBstar HTL to the water, start the heater, start adding the grain and mixing at the same time.
Keep heating and mixing until near the upper limit of the HTL, turn off the heat and mix for a little more.
Cover and get ready for the next step.[/quote]

since im new im curious to how i should apply my HTL in my stardard mashing process . i do the normal " no cook" method and add my boiling water to my corn. it will usually drop into the mid 180s. i beleive thats close to right temp. so i would add my HTL after the dump and drop in temp. so far so good?

let it steep for the normal 3 hours and then bring my mash temp down to normal mash temps and add the rest of the enzymes and let it do its thing.

looking forward to my first all corn mash

[shadylane]

That will work. There's more efficient ways, but time will make up for most of it.
For the next step, a little bit of frozen backset will help cool the mash and lower the pH.
The gluco amylase likes that

[rager]

That will work. There's more efficient ways, but time will make up for most of it.
For the next step, a little bit of frozen backset will help cool the mash and lower the pH.
The gluco amylase likes that

got myself a wort chiller