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... that I am developing here?

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Charcoal insert for the vapor path?


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Hi Odin
shooting from the hip, column packing material in a disk. from outside the galaxy, woven perf plate material :oops: . I watch too much si-fi :?
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Medieval chainmail condom? :mrgreen:
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SS mesh disc. To stack in the column? Or as a diffuser for vapor/reflux in the column?
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Love your out of the box thinking, guys. Very inspring!

It is our helicon column packing tranlated/shaped into a waffle.

I will test it as a potential new form of column packing.

It's not a scrubby, it is a densely woven and baked structure. Very interesting.

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I'd be happy to test them for you. Send me 5 or 6...

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Be careful of what you ask for! You have a 5 inch column, by the way?

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Those look like they'd be nice to work with. Should stack very easily in a column. Following this one for sure.
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Odin wrote:...You have a 5 inch column, by the way?

:D

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I think the current challenge is twofold. First, these may be a bit too densely woven. We'll see, but if so, we'd loose performance - potentially - due to reflux not dripping back down fast enough. Not sure, specs are good, but that's a slight fear I have. Okay, let's trust original calcs. And if we can, we are in for a treat. If I did this correctly, this should give lower than small SPP HETP to bigger columns!

The real challenge for now is packing them. Do we put one at a time into the column? They are like 6 to 7 mm thick, so you'd 150 for a column. Beware, they don't press. They are flat. I'll take pictures from the sides later. Anyhow, if you "throw" 150 pieces in, how to make sure especially the bottom ones are nicely placed?

I think in this direction for a solution. Make a rod. Fabricate them HCP (Helicon Column Packing) waffles with a hole in the middle. Push 150 of them over the rod. Lower the rod in the column. Of course, at the bottom of the rod is some kind of rostar to hold the waffles in place. And for easy unpacking, the top of the rod should have a know you can turn on for easy lifting.

Something like that. What say you?

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You could have one or more holes, but AWAY from the centre (from the picture it seems the operational part of the waffle is in the centre so a rod there would not work).
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Stainless spokes (think bicycle wheel) threaded into a skeletonized plate (think coffee french press plate) arranged like a shotgun condenser, with welded on nuts for the spokes on each end? Maybe a simple loop of wire as a retrieving pull?
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GSP wrote:Stainless spokes (think bicycle wheel) threaded into a skeletonized plate (think coffee french press plate) arranged like a shotgun condenser, with welded on nuts for the spokes on each end? Maybe a simple loop of wire as a retrieving pull?
Interesting and maybe further interesting possibilities.
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stop saying waffle, my mind should prob make me want a belgian waffle, but my sick brain thinks blue waffle :some_sick_lad_that_SP: :sick:
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Swedish Pride wrote:stop saying waffle, my mind should prob make me want a belgian waffle, but my sick brain thinks blue waffle :some_sick_lad_that_SP: :sick:

Thanks sp!
And to think i had almost forgotten about blue waffles....
Now i gotta go look at dunder pics to get my mind off disgusting blue waffle awfulness.
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sp thats the last thing i wanted to be thinking about.

odin looks interesting. the spoke idea sounds like it could work well. 3 or 4 threaded rods down the sides in a square or triangle. a couple of nuts and washers at the bottom & top. with a ring nut at the end to help remove it.
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Currently thinking of braiding it into a full sausage. That will take it from 2 dimensional to 3 dimensional. No more need of sticks, etc. Just a sausage you can lower into your column. Has to be within 0.5 mm though. And if you let it settle, the weight should move the package outwards a bit to prevent even the narrowest gap between packing "sausage" and column wall.

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